Proof there are aliens

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Current debate on object 3I/ATLAS

Something about that this interstellar object/'comet' has no traditional tail and that the light it is throwing off is in front? Scientists at Harvard are starting to question it. It also is one of the fastest objects ever tracked in our solar system. Will be closest to the Sun at the end of October and will actually pass through the orbits of Earth and Mars. Nasa says it is normal and no harm to us - made of mostly of ice. Interesting regardless.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/har...ject-could-alien-probe-reconnaissance-mission


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Dude is obviously very bright and has made huge contributions to the scientific community, but he also said the same thing about oumuamua a handful of years back and publishes books with very altruistic views of finding alien life.

I wouldn’t call him a nut though. He is quick to claim “aliens” but it is also with the intent to make sure humanity is prepared for it if it ever happens.

Anyways, my opinion on the matter is the thing is just traveling too damn slow to make me think there was anything living on it that is making a trek from even the nearest solar system.
 
I trust your judgement on this as you are more up on this stuff than I.

Are you saying that because it is not from our solar system, and it is going to slow - then it can't be from the next nearest solar system because that is too far away? I mean, I agree with that part. That would mean it has been traveling over 100,000 years. I guess I'm making an assumption that alien life doesn't HAVE to be on a solar system. And that if they can travel these distances to visit us, they absolutely know something about space travel that we don't, ie - hyperspeed, worm holes, whatever.
 
One thing i have noticed throughout the years, is human beings always see things from that perspective.
When we think about alien life, we have no idea how advanced they could possibly be.
Assumptions are made regarding them, with little to no understanding of what they are actually capable of. But that's just human nature.
 
As for travel speed.....have none of you changed speed throughout a long road trip?

Interesting thread, watching. :yes:
 
311boogieman said:
I trust your judgement on this as you are more up on this stuff than I.

Are you saying that because it is not from our solar system, and it is going to slow - then it can't be from the next nearest solar system because that is too far away? I mean, I agree with that part. That would mean it has been traveling over 100,000 years. I guess I'm making an assumption that alien life doesn't HAVE to be on a solar system. And that if they can travel these distances to visit us, they absolutely know something about space travel that we don't, ie - hyperspeed, worm holes, whatever.
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The actual science of all this is so far over my head I’m just trying to use some real world logic.

The nearest star is a bit over 4 light years away. The speed of light is something like 670 million mph. Atlas is moving maybe 150 thousand mph. That’s like 16,000+ years even at what sounds like a really fast speed.

And if it was at one point traveling faster, why slow down months before its destination?

I dunno. I guess in my head if we ever have a massive alien ship visit our planet, it’s just going to appear here in an instant and not something we watch for months as it approaches our solar system
 
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It's really hard to say/predict their way of thinking/technology. Assuming they even exist.
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It makes me think of the double edged sword that JWST can be. It is just so advanced that it allows people to make new discoveries, but at the same time is so advanced that there is nothing else that can be used to confirm the findings.
but me personally I think we will find pretty damning “signs of life” via atmospheric biosignatures on at least 1 exoplanet in the next decade. Best case scenario we discover some shit swimming sound on (in) Europa too
 
Dan Gleesak said:
It makes me think of the double edged sword that JWST can be. It is just so advanced that it allows people to make new discoveries, but at the same time is so advanced that there is nothing else that can be used to confirm the findings.
but me personally I think we will find pretty damning “signs of life” via atmospheric biosignatures on at least 1 exoplanet in the next decade. Best case scenario we discover some shit swimming sound on (in) Europa too
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I absolutely believe there could be other life out there, as far as maths (thanks kid) goes. I'm just not sure about how their tech works and whether or not they'd just transport here instantly or travel like we do in cars/jets. One of my greatest concerns in life is probably missing out on the discovery of alien life forms and the truth about a possible creator/beginning of the universe.
 
easier for me to copy paste right now :lol:

to closest star system

Reaching Proxima Centauri with current technology would take an incredibly long time, likely tens of thousands of years. For example, the fastest spacecraft, Voyager 1, would take over 73,000 years to reach it. Even with advanced propulsion systems like nuclear pulse propulsion, which could potentially achieve 5% the speed of light, the journey would still take decades.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Current technology:
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Voyager 1, traveling at approximately 38,600 miles per hour, would require over 70,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri.
Advanced propulsion (Nuclear pulse propulsion):
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This method, while promising, would still take a significant amount of time, potentially 85 years at 5% the speed of light, but faces challenges with radioactive fallout.
Speed of light:
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Even traveling at the speed of light, which is currently impossible with our technology, it would still take 4.24 years to reach Proxima Centauri.
Reasonable travel time:
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To make the journey within a human lifetime, speeds approaching 20-30% the speed of light would be necessary.
 
311boogieman said:
easier for me to copy paste right now :lol:

to closest star system

Reaching Proxima Centauri with current technology would take an incredibly long time, likely tens of thousands of years. For example, the fastest spacecraft, Voyager 1, would take over 73,000 years to reach it. Even with advanced propulsion systems like nuclear pulse propulsion, which could potentially achieve 5% the speed of light, the journey would still take decades.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Current technology:
.
Voyager 1, traveling at approximately 38,600 miles per hour, would require over 70,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri.
Advanced propulsion (Nuclear pulse propulsion):
.
This method, while promising, would still take a significant amount of time, potentially 85 years at 5% the speed of light, but faces challenges with radioactive fallout.
Speed of light:
.
Even traveling at the speed of light, which is currently impossible with our technology, it would still take 4.24 years to reach Proxima Centauri.
Reasonable travel time:
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To make the journey within a human lifetime, speeds approaching 20-30% the speed of light would be necessary.
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Another thing that is interesting to think about is if we “made communication” with aliens on even the nearest exoplanet, Our communications still abide by the laws of physics and can’t travel faster than the speed of light.
So every message we sent would take 4 years to get there and another 4 for their response to get back to us. That’s 8 years per message
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Another thing that is interesting to think about is if we “made communication” with aliens on even the nearest exoplanet, Our communications still abide by the laws of physics and can’t travel faster than the speed of light.
So every message we sent would take 4 years to get there and another 4 for their response to get back to us. That’s 8 years per message
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Good point. But if they have technology to just show up here momentarily, surely they have the ability to 'listen" before it even leaves the atmosphere or satellite. Or intercept it "hyper-sonically".

When does '3 Body Problem' fire back up? They were filming no?
 
311boogieman said:
Good point. But if they have technology to just show up here momentarily, surely they have the ability to 'listen" before it even leaves the atmosphere or satellite. Or intercept it "hyper-sonically".

When does '3 Body Problem' fire back up? They were filming no?
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Another thing I think about is that everything in space is moving very fast. Like the ISS is traveling 17 something thousand mph just to stay in orbit, so if a ship were to somehow just appear outside our planet, the planet would be long gone pretty quick.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Another thing I think about is that everything in space is moving very fast. Like the ISS is traveling 17 something thousand mph just to stay in orbit, so if a ship were to somehow just appear outside our planet, the planet would be long gone pretty quick.
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Come again?
 
311boogieman said:
Come again?
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Like we were talking about the possibility of an alien space ship being able to “warp” through space so to speak. If it could hit a button and appear outside our planet, our planet would whiz right past it in an instant.

The movie images a spacecraft looming over the planet wouldn’t really work because that spacecraft would have to be traveling really fast to not be either left behind or crash into the planet.

Being in “orbit” just means traveling fast enough not to crash back down to earth, and that is pretty fast
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Like we were talking about the possibility of an alien space ship being able to “warp” through space so to speak. If it could hit a button and appear outside our planet, our planet would whiz right past it in an instant.

The movie images a spacecraft looming over the planet wouldn’t really work because that spacecraft would have to be traveling really fast to not be either left behind or crash into the planet.

Being in “orbit” just means traveling fast enough not to crash back down to earth, and that is pretty fast
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Ah. I see. Right, well again, I assume if they can travel great distances, find and intercept analog transmissions, and appear out of no where - I'm confident they would then have the knowledge and technology too determine the orbit, speed and rotation of ANY object in space and make adjustments accordingly.

Not to mention the Sun and the whole solar system is also traveling very fast as it orbits the galaxy.

At first I thought you were saying gone quickly in relation to time (Earth gone/destroyed/or whatever).

(my apologies for run on sentence shit) :D
 
311boogieman said:
Ah. I see. Right, well again, I assume if they can travel great distances, find and intercept analog transmissions, and appear out of no where - I'm confident they would then have the knowledge and technology too determine the orbit, speed and rotation of ANY object in space and make adjustments accordingly.

Not to mention the Sun and the whole solar system is also traveling very fast as it orbits the galaxy.

At first I thought you were saying gone quickly in relation to time (Earth gone/destroyed/or whatever).

(my apologies for run on sentence shit) :D
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I will take a run on sentence over every sentence with several paragraph breaks ala the kid any day lol
 
science is gay and cringe
space is gay and cringe
aliens are gay and cringe
 
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