Purchasing an Eleven Rack... Can you talk me out of it?

[TrueTone500]

I was going to order another Kemper, but I'm seriously thinking about getting an Eleven Rack instead. It's 4 x input interface + Pro Tools + the new expansion pack for bass and vocals are tempting! I could run my Korg i30 and Nord Lead 3 mixed into 2 x inputs to handle drums and synths, 1 x input for vocals, and 1 x guitar/bass. I haven't used my MacBook Pro for recording yet, but the Eleven Rack bundle may change that. I purchased an SSD update for my Mac for this very purpose... I just need to decide on the best setup.

Here's a short clip of someone showcasing some of the effects... The effects sound great, as do the amp tones.

 

[Revson]

It's a good little box and decent interface, but I think he coaxed a good tone out of it by using a power amp and speaker cabs. I had a hard time dialing in a tone I was happy with purely in the box when I had mine. The included speakers just weren't doing it for me. Bypassing the speakers and using third party stuff like Redwirez IRs should help out quite a bit though.

I'd say do it if you're looking to get PT11 and an interface for relatively cheap, though.

 

[TrueTone500]

I'm checking-out clips and tutorials on the Positive Grid Bias software now... I'm leaning toward the PG Bias; as long as I can also load it into my MacBook Pro.

Bias metal tones tutorial...

 

[nzsteve]

I was looking at the same options and went with PG Bias and Jam Up Pro. I don't know if its how I have it set up or what but I just cant get the feel I would really like. I keep reading about other users that are having much better results. I'm using studio monitors and good gear and cables. I think I would like to try the Eleven Rack, lots for sale but most do not come with PT. I guess PG is very portable..

 

[TrueTone500]

What I don't like about Bias, is the idea of interfacing with my laptop to make adjustments... I prefer a more tactile approach.

As much as I liked my Kemper, I sold it because I was ruining my hearing with it. Too many tones that I'd never use, and all of them are made by other musicians. Something about that bothers me? I guess it's that I don't want someone else's tone... I want my tone.

I'm thinking Eleven Rack would be the best choice for me. It's got a great looking interface w/4 x inputs and a stereo effects loop also. A lot of people rag on ProTools, but since I've never used a software based DAW, I won't know the difference.

 

[esizer]

I love my eleven rack...PT is pretty meh for me so I use Reaper.

 

[glassjaw7]

Seems like a pretty decent unit, but I agree that a big part of the tone in that vid is being created with the power amp. My POD HD sounds really, really great through a tube power amp. Not so much direct.

 

[Norton666]

I just got one last Friday. Frankly , it kicks ass. The Bogner model is awesome and the AC30 model is spot on. I jammed a couple of quick Metallica tunes and recorded them. I spent very little time tweaking and I thought they turned out alright. I'll post them. Also , the eleven rack forum has some killer presets. The John Mayer Super Reverb is really inspiring
FWIW, I got mine from MF and they price matched for $649. I bought it for Pro Tools and was presently surprised by the preamp

 

[crankyrayhanky]

For the purposes you described, it's a great unit. The Bogners and Bass tones are super. The interface flexibility is great bang for the buck. You can always mic up your amp and record that way, or reamp throught he 11R matrix. Lots of things to like here.

On the flip side, most of the pure amp tones- especially in the speaker sims- were less than awesome.

 

[TrueTone500]

I've heard this term before... What do you mean by "re-amp", and how would I use the 11R to do this?

 

[JerEvil]

I LOVE my Eleven. Got it for $324 shipped from eBay. Brand new and was able to register. I was worried it was not legit but man, it kicks all kinds of butt. You can quickly dial in good tones. I think it is a unit that can be as simple or complex as you want it to be.

 

[BigDog]

I've heard this term before... What do you mean by "re-amp", and how would I use the 11R to do this?

Record a generic/plain track or riff with PT on track one. Re-amp to track two, loop playback and adjust tone, effects, settings, etc...
Use the TorpedoLive and 3rd party IR's

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I think its a cool tool for recording and low volume practicing...good package with protools too. I wouldn't use modeller live but I'd give the effects a try in the loop of an amp.

 

[TrueTone500]

I haven't heard anything that would convince me not to buy. I've been going through 11R clips, and I'm thoroughly impressed.

 

[JerEvil]

I haven't heard anything that would convince me not to buy. I've been going through 11R clips, and I'm thoroughly impressed.

I think it's a great "bang for the buck".

 

[ewill52]

holy crap the clip above sounds great! I like those live sounds better than most of the recorded clips I've heard where they've used it as an interface....makes me reconsider. I've always wanted a Kemper or Axe-Fx but just didn't want to part with that much cash for a modeler...this makes me think that the 11R is a legit budget option! Especially with the used market being what it is.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I've heard this term before... What do you mean by "re-amp", and how would I use the 11R to do this?

If you never re-amped before, the 11R is a great place to start

You can enable 2 tracks (or more) to record on the DAW
track 1 is "wet": wet doesn't mean just delays and reverb here, but everything from amp, eq, & fx in your 11R patch;
use this as your 1st take to jam to your tunes
track 2: optional for a stereo wet sound LR
track 3 is "dry": sounds like your guitar is plugged straight into the DAW, no amp, eq, fx, totally dry

The 11R allows you to take that dry take on track 3 and "reamp" it through the 11R. Put your guitar down and listen to your take with the various amp models and setting- super cool and ez to do on 11R!

Once you get that in the box reamp down, you can then try to send the dry track out of the box and into your actual amp stacks, dial in your sounds with your actual playing, and re-record the new tones into the DAW

Lots of videos out there to help....Have fun!

 

[TrueTone500]

I've heard this term before... What do you mean by "re-amp", and how would I use the 11R to do this?

If you never re-amped before, the 11R is a great place to start

You can enable 2 tracks (or more) to record on the DAW
track 1 is "wet": wet doesn't mean just delays and reverb here, but everything from amp, eq, & fx in your 11R patch;
use this as your 1st take to jam to your tunes
track 2: optional for a stereo wet sound LR
track 3 is "dry": sounds like your guitar is plugged straight into the DAW, no amp, eq, fx, totally dry

The 11R allows you to take that dry take on track 3 and "reamp" it through the 11R. Put your guitar down and listen to your take with the various amp models and setting- super cool and ez to do on 11R!

Once you get that in the box reamp down, you can then try to send the dry track out of the box and into your actual amp stacks, dial in your sounds with your actual playing, and re-record the new tones into the DAW

Lots of videos out there to help....Have fun![/quote