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[Dan Gleesak]

call it whatever you want, it's still our right.

I don't have to play someone's imaginary game; if it's required by law that's coercion and violates 1A.

If someone doesn't like it, that's tough and their problem not mine.

rights > feelings
rights > preferences
rights > opinions.

back in the day, when I was younger, thinner, had long hair and no facial hair I was often mistaken for a woman; I laughed it off I didn't get offended or butthurt about it.

Yea your rights are the ones in trouble

 

[rsm]

Yea your rights are the ones in trouble

they are, since we all have the same Constitutional rights.

the Constitution doesn't require any of us to address anyone in any prescribed way. simple as that.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

they are, since we all have the same Constitutional rights.

the Constitution doesn't require any of us to address anyone in any prescribed way. simple as that.

I’m not saying you are legally obligated to refer to her as “she”.
I’m saying on a personal level you are refusing to do so out of spite and hatred, and THAT is why their rights are in trouble, not yours

 

[japetus]

I’ve never felt anyone has ever forced and opinion on me.

Opinions are being forced on you every day. What do you think marketing is?

 

[rsm]

I’m not saying you are legally obligated to refer to her as “she”.
I’m saying on a personal level you are refusing to do so out of spite and hatred, and THAT is why their rights are in trouble, not yours

how nice of you to project "spite and hatred"; it's more like delusion and fantasy. They can claim to be a space shuttle, rocketship, batgirl or the riddler for all I care, doesn't mean I will use those terms either.

using their terms implies accepting their fantasy. I don't.

they can play their fantasy game if they want; it's my right not to play their fantasy game.

 

[japetus]

this whole budlite thing is a glaring example of this. I doubt many if any of you knew who that chick was before budlite teamed up with her. All she did was post on an Instagram account that only fans of hers would see.

And people got all butthurt about it. She wasn’t forcing anything in anyone. You would all still not know who she was if people weren’t sniveling bitches about it. Budlite wasn’t advertising to you, but people stuck their noses in it and now are complaining that they are being forced to hear stuff. If you are upset by her message, it is your own fault you are even hearing it

Why does a persons choice to no longer support a brand for any reason bother you?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

how nice of you to project "spite and hatred"; it's more like delusion and fantasy. They can claim to be a space shuttle, rocketship, batgirl or the riddler for all I care, doesn't mean I will use those terms either.

using their terms implies accepting their fantasy. I don't.

they can play their fantasy game if they want; it's my right not to play their fantasy game.

It’s not playing in to fantasy, it’s just not hating on them. I bet you have no problem calling people you like, whatever they want.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Why does a persons choice to no longer support a brand for any reason bother you?

You answer to this lies within your own question

Opinions are being forced on you every day. What do you think marketing is?

I don’t care what beer people drink, but as you said every company markets themselves. Why is budlite doing it a problem? Because of hate. It is that simple

 

[rsm]

It’s not playing in to fantasy, it’s just not hating on them. I bet you have no problem calling people you like, whatever they want.

what I call people I like and don't like is based in objective reality; not based in someone's personal delusional fantasy.

there's the difference.

 

[japetus]

I’m not saying you are legally obligated to refer to her as “she”.
I’m saying on a personal level you are refusing to do so out of spite and hatred, and THAT is why their rights are in trouble, not yours

Do you truly believe it is spite and hatred to not call a man a "woman" and lie to myself? I want you to really think about this. I do not think it is a woman. It is a man. Why do you want me to force myself to lie to myself?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Do you truly believe it is spite and hatred to not call a man a "woman" and lie to myself? I want you to really think about this. I do not think it is a woman. It is a man. Why do you want me to force myself to lie to myself?

Yes, that is exactly what I believe.

 

[rsm]

Yes, that is exactly what I believe.

which is your right.

it's other's right to believe otherwise

 

[japetus]

Yes, that is exactly what I believe.

We have reached an impasse, and there is no longer any reason to communicate with you on this issue.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

We have reached an impasse, and there is no longer any reason to communicate with you on this issue.

If you think simply calling someone what they would like to be called is not something you should do out of basic human decency, then I agree, we have nothing else to talk about.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

which is your right.

it's other's right to believe otherwise

The difference being my belief treats people equally whether I like them or not. Yours is an excuse to shit on people

 

[japetus]

If you think simply calling someone what they would like to be called is not something you should do out of basic human decency, then I agree, we have nothing else to talk about.

If you think forcing someone to lie to themelves about simple biological truths to appease someones mental illness, then I question yours.

 

[rsm]

The difference being my belief treats people equally whether I like them or not. Yours is an excuse to shit on people

rights > opinions

go on, indulge other peoples delusional fantasies if it makes you feel better; it's your right

 

[Dan Gleesak]

If you think forcing someone to lie to themelves about simple biological truths to appease someones mental illness, then I question yours.

You can make all the excuses you want dude. It doesn’t change anything

 

[Dan Gleesak]

rights > opinions

go on, indulge other peoples delusional fantasies if it makes you feel better; it's your right

Rights>opinions in a thread where people’s rights are being taken away for “forcing opinions” on people.
Interesting

 

[rsm]

Rights>opinions in a thread where people’s rights are being taken away for “forcing opinions” on people.
Interesting

no one's rights are being taken away.

they can believe their delusional fantasies to their heart's content; it's their right.

It's my right to not believe or accept their delusional fantasies.