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[Dan Gleesak]

all those guns just going around shooting people without human operators,

That really has nothing to do with it. I just find it to be total horseshit when people say they are concerned about the safety of schools and just gloss over guns. Complete hypocrisy

 

[rsm]

Not in public school you don’t

which is why parents have options and choices for our children

 

[rsm]

That really has nothing to do with it. I just find it to be total horseshit when people say they are concerned about the safety of schools and just gloss over guns. Complete hypocrisy

all those guitars playing themselves too!

They say country music great Chet Atkins was playing a gig in a small Nashville club. After finishing a song, an audience member said “Man, that old guitar sounds great.” Atkins placed the guitar on its stand and replied, “How does it sound now?”

 

[Dan Gleesak]

all those guitars playing themselves too!

They say country music great Chet Atkins was playing a gig in a small Nashville club. After finishing a song, an audience member said “Man, that old guitar sounds great.” Atkins placed the guitar on its stand and replied, “How does it sound now?”

It is still sidestepping an issue

 

[rsm]

That really has nothing to do with it. I just find it to be total horseshit when people say they are concerned about the safety of schools and just gloss over guns. Complete hypocrisy

again no one is stopping adult men from dressing like women.

who has access to other people's children is the question

 

[rsm]

It is still sidestepping an issue

not at all; free speech and keep and bear arms are both rights.

interesting that many places with the most restrictive infringements on 2A often have the most gun violence.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

which is why parents have options and choices for our children

Correct. The option is to put them in a private school. The incorrect option is to ban diversity in the public school.
I accept people will still have their own prejudices. We all do. But we can’t let those prejudices affect other children’s education and culture

 

[Dan Gleesak]

not at all; free speech and keep and bear arms are both rights.

interesting that many places with the most restrictive infringements on 2A often have the most gun violence.

But you are ok with people not having free speech.

 

[rsm]

Correct. The option is to put them in a private school. The incorrect option is to ban diversity in the public school.
I accept people will still have their own prejudices. We all do. But we can’t let those prejudices affect other children’s education and culture

parents have the right to decide what activities their children participate, even in public schools.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

parents have the right to decide what activities their children participate, even in public schools.

But not if it excludes a group of people.

 

[rsm]

But you are ok with people not having free speech.

who doesn't have free speech; if laws are passed to prohibit dragshows to minor children in schools, they can be challenged as unconstitutional.

forcing parents to accept whatever the school board, school admins, teachers etc., decide is also a violation of rights. many of these school workers are well aware that most parents don't accept these things, which is why they often attempt to hide it.

many parents learned what their kids were being taught during the pandemic by overhearing zoom lessons. Not being involved in their kids school activities is on the parents.

 

[rsm]

But not if it excludes a group of people.

if it effects minor children, parents have rights too.


if the kkk wanted to read to your kids in public school, you're ok with that?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

if it effects minor children, parents have rights too.


if the kkk wanted to read to your kids in public school, you're ok with that?

You are comparing the kkk to men dressed as women?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

who doesn't have free speech; if laws are passed to prohibit dragshows to minor children in schools, they can be challenged as unconstitutional.

forcing parents to accept whatever the school board, school admins, teachers etc., decide is also a violation of rights. many of these school workers are well aware that most parents don't accept these things, which is why they often attempt to hide it.

many parents learned what their kids were being taught during the pandemic by overhearing zoom lessons. Not being involved in their kids school activities is on the parents.

At this point quite frankly, If parents are still prejudiced against gays, that is their own cross to bear.
Outside of extreme examples, no one is expecting people to accept and be happy about gay/trans/whatever.
However there is an expectation that as adults we should have the foresight to not let our own prejudices affect the community

 

[rsm]

You are comparing the kkk to men dressed as women?

do they both have 1A right to free speech?

what if it was Black Panthers, or communist party, or neo-nazi party, etc.? All free speech; you're ok with them reading to your minor kids is public school?

free speech doesn't mean you have to accept it; it only means you can't prohibit it.

 

[rsm]

At this point quite frankly, If parents are still prejudiced against gays, that is their own cross to bear.
Outside of extreme examples, no one is expecting people to accept and be happy about gay/trans/whatever.
However as adults we should have the foresight to not let our own prejudices affect the community

there's either free speech for all, without infringement or there is no such thing as free speech.

pick any group whose ideology you find distasteful; by your logic they all have the right to read to your minor children in public schools; and as a parent you have no right to say otherwise.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

do they both have 1A right to free speech?

what if it was Black Panthers, or communist party, or neo-nazi party, etc.? All free speech; you're ok with them reading to your minor kids is public school?

free speech doesn't mean you have to accept it; it only means you can't prohibit it.

Hate speech is very clearly defined by law. If that’s what those groups are talking to students about then no they should not be allowed to do so

 

[rsm]

Hate speech is very clearly defined by law. If that’s what those groups are talking to students about then no they should not be allowed to do so

denying the right to "hate speech", by definition, violates the 1A. At some point, hate speech laws will be challenged Constitutionally.

"hate speech" is free speech.

 

[JackBootedThug]

But how does it become a problem when they read to children? They are reading children’s stories to them. It’s not like it’s lessons on how to tuck your cock in to panties.

Do you really not see the problem or are you just playing devils advocate?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

there's either free speech for all, without infringement or there is no such thing as free speech.

pick any group whose ideology you find distasteful; by your logic they all have the right to read to your minor children in public schools; and as a parent you have no right to say otherwise.

Like I said, hate speech is very clearly held outside of “free speech”
And I’m pretty sure you know that