quadraverb?

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ive heard alot of vamp about these things giving "tha tone" for effects vs price

ive also heard they are tone suckers?

i know they are somewhat hard to find, but theres a quadraverb in the basement of a local guitar shop i regular frequently, where they do repairs on amps and such. so ive got access to one. its in ba shape on a shelf mixed in with about 20 other rack effects over the years, just wondering as far opinions go? never heard one but heard alot about them :D
 
There are 6 on ebay right now (not including variations ie quadraverb gt etc). They go for $50-75. Yes, they are tone suckers.
 
Not to mention the dropouts when changing presets :D Buy an old intellifex. Better bet for sure.
 
PeteLaramee":2y0h5qz8 said:
There are 6 on ebay right now (not including variations ie quadraverb gt etc). They go for $50-75. Yes, they are tone suckers.

hmm, indeed tone sucking is bad. very bad. probably why theres so many laying around? :D


jcj":2y0h5qz8 said:
Not to mention the dropouts when changing presets :D Buy an old intellifex. Better bet for sure.

will definately look into it for sure. how does the rocktron xpress vs the gmajor i have/intelliex compare?

i would love to have an FX but reailistically my budget says different :lol: :LOL: :aww:
 
I used one for years way back in the day with my ADA mp-1 and Peavey classic 120 power amp. They do suck the tone and it does have some dropout when you compile too many effects in one patch. Man that was a long time ago :confused:

I'd probably spend some extra cash and get a G Major, Rocktron Expression, or an Intelliflex or something :yes:
 
Lord Toneking":hjzv2sfz said:
I used one for years way back in the day with my ADA mp-1 and Peavey classic 120 power amp. They do suck the tone and it does have some dropout when you compile too many effects in one patch. Man that was a long time ago :confused:

I'd probably spend some extra cash and get a G Major, Rocktron Expression, or an Intelliflex or something :yes:

I had almost the same thing. I had an ADA, Quadraverb, Sonic Maximizer and a Carvin FET400. Ala Vitto Bratta. It sounded good, but I only used it for reverb. When I used the Quad with my Rectifier, The tone suckage was very evident. So, I sent it on its way. I realized the Rectifier did not sound good either, so I sent that on it's way aswell. :D
 
SgtThump":2rfl21w4 said:
jcj":2rfl21w4 said:
Not to mention the dropouts when changing presets :D Buy an old intellifex. Better bet for sure.

Unless my memory is really messed up right now, the Quadraverbs don't have a dropout when changing presets. As a matter-of-fact, that was one of the coolest things about them when they came out. They jump right to the next preset with no dropout. The stuff from Digitech (puke) and alot of other makers back then made units with dropouts, which made the Quadraverb's desireable.

Unless I just dreamed all of that. lol...

Anyway, I think they sound killer. They're not real "hi fi" sounding, which some would describe as a little "warm." I dig 'em and they work very well with some amps/effects loops. Alot of the tone suckage depends on the loop. They tend to shave some highs from the amp, which can be good or bad.

I like them and have owned probably 4 or 5 during my time.

The Quads were better than the old digitech dsp 128's (or 256's?...it's been a while), but the only semi affordable unit I remember from those days that didn't drop or color too much was the intellifex. I'm talking about the originals, and have no idea about any of the revisions, so perhaps that's the difference in our memories
 
I bought one of these when it came out, they were nice in their day. Used it with a MP-1 and it worked well. There was plenty of switching delay in the MP-1 so any lag in the Quad (if there is any) wasn't really noticed.

Later when I went to slaving an old Marshall...I still used the Quad, it always worked for me. They are still nice for pa use...
 
I had one for a little while a couple years ago - pretty cool little unit. Thought it was great for what it did - maybe I should get another one...
 
The quadraverb was OK when it first came out and I used it for a while but there are much better bang $$$ for the units out there. To be honest with you a Boss Se-50 or SE-70 will smoke a qudraverb in every aspect and so will the intellifex.
 
I'd say go for the Intellifex or Replifex if you can find one.....
 
LUKATHERFAN":ksbp5tpm said:
I'd say go for the Intellifex or Replifex if you can find one.....

Or Multivalve, Intelliverb, or Intellipitch.
 
Gainfreak":3fy8c9rk said:
The quadraverb was OK when it first came out and I used it for a while but there are much better bang $$$ for the units out there. To be honest with you a Boss Se-50 or SE-70 will smoke a qudraverb in every aspect and so will the intellifex.
You be crazy....those Boss units were awful!!!!! Intellifex was better, but also quite a bit more money at the time. I just sold off the majority of my rack gear and still have a Quad
 
not much mention of the xpression, ill definately take everyones words and check out the intelliflex for sure, and ill do some research on the repliplex, intelliverb, and inltelliflex models as well

i do agree that better technology does exist, but sometimes those timely pieces can add something to your tone that others cant (or take away in the same manner) alot of people swear by the quad's over at ADA and figured as much that they are outdated.

i havent heard of the other models, so ill check them out for sure. thanks guys :D :thumbsup:
 
glpg80":7zi60qpp said:
not much mention of the xpression, ill definately take everyones words and check out the intelliflex for sure, and ill do some research on the repliplex, intelliverb, and inltelliflex models as well

i do agree that better technology does exist, but sometimes those timely pieces can add something to your tone that others cant (or take away in the same manner) alot of people swear by the quad's over at ADA and figured as much that they are outdated.

i havent heard of the other models, so ill check them out for sure. thanks guys :D :thumbsup:

Xpression isn't bad, either. It's in the same category as the Replifex and MultiValve, only it lacks channel switching. The Intelli series sounds better, but has less effects.
 
My buddy still uses one with his Diezel VH4S and has fantastic tone. As he says, the effects sound good, but it is a tone sucker. Don't use it in a series loop, but with a Parallel loop you can get away with it.
 
meanstreet":2qfy6mzj said:
My buddy still uses one with his Diezel VH4S and has fantastic tone. As he says, the effects sound good, but it is a tone sucker. Don't use it in a series loop, but with a Parallel loop you can get away with it.
im a noob to hooking up effects in rack systems :scared:

elaborate? :aww:

edit: im a computer major. i understand series/parallel extremely well... just not how to apply it to using 1/4" jack-wiring with effects send/returns.
 
glpg80":dh4ncn8a said:
meanstreet":dh4ncn8a said:
My buddy still uses one with his Diezel VH4S and has fantastic tone. As he says, the effects sound good, but it is a tone sucker. Don't use it in a series loop, but with a Parallel loop you can get away with it.
im a noob to hooking up effects in rack systems :scared:

elaborate? :aww:

edit: im a computer major. i understand series/parallel extremely well... just not how to apply it to using 1/4" jack-wiring with effects send/returns.

It isn't a matter of hooking it up. You either have a parallel effects loop or you don't...

Of course, just taking a line out to the efx unit and then power amp and cab is always gonna be better than an effects loop of any kind. If your amp doesn't have a line out, use a Hotplate. This way you always have a non-tone-sucked dry signal and can use 100% wet effects...

Steve
 
sah5150":28f7hhh1 said:
glpg80":28f7hhh1 said:
meanstreet":28f7hhh1 said:
My buddy still uses one with his Diezel VH4S and has fantastic tone. As he says, the effects sound good, but it is a tone sucker. Don't use it in a series loop, but with a Parallel loop you can get away with it.
im a noob to hooking up effects in rack systems :scared:

elaborate? :aww:

edit: im a computer major. i understand series/parallel extremely well... just not how to apply it to using 1/4" jack-wiring with effects send/returns.

It isn't a matter of hooking it up. You either have a parallel effects loop or you don't...

Of course, just taking a line out to the efx unit and then power amp and cab is always gonna be better than an effects loop of any kind. If your amp doesn't have a line out, use a Hotplate. This way you always have a non-tone-sucked dry signal and can use 100% wet effects...

Steve

another q:

pre out/line out is same difference?
 
glpg80":3tmy8sxi said:
sah5150":3tmy8sxi said:
glpg80":3tmy8sxi said:
im a noob to hooking up effects in rack systems :scared:

elaborate? :aww:

edit: im a computer major. i understand series/parallel extremely well... just not how to apply it to using 1/4" jack-wiring with effects send/returns.

It isn't a matter of hooking it up. You either have a parallel effects loop or you don't...

Of course, just taking a line out to the efx unit and then power amp and cab is always gonna be better than an effects loop of any kind. If your amp doesn't have a line out, use a Hotplate. This way you always have a non-tone-sucked dry signal and can use 100% wet effects...

Steve

another q:

pre out/line out is same difference?

I've never seen a guitar amp with an "pre out" (although they may exist, I dunno). I usually see effects loops with a send/return and most are serial. If you want to run w/d/w with a stereo power amp, you can't just send your signal to effects without returning something to the guitar amp. If your guitar amp's loop is parallel, you could do this...

A line out has no return. They can come from the pre or power section and have no "return". Usually they have a pot to adjust the signal level. If you have a "pre out" that is not part of a serial efx loop with a return, it is the same as a "line out"...

Steve
 
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