panhead
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JMP`s 6550`s
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harddriver
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Empire was the touring racks from MindCrime, Soldano X88R’s ...
Were the Soldano X88R's in production in 1987 for Mindcrime? I know the SLO wasn't production until like 1987. I'm sure they said what was used in interviews somewhere. The last time I seen them live was around 2006-2007 and they always sounded killer and were always a very tight band from top to bottom.
I've seen alot of live videos from the Warning 1984 and Rage for Order 1986 in Japan and it was all Marshall amps, not sure what else was used in the signal chain. I would bet JMP JCM Marshall's with 6550's.
Were the Soldano X88R's in production in 1987 for Mindcrime? I know the SLO wasn't production until like 1987. I'm sure they said what was used in interviews somewhere. The last time I seen them live was around 2006-2007 and they always sounded killer and were always a very tight band from top to bottom.
I've seen alot of live videos from the Warning 1984 and Rage for Order 1986 in Japan and it was all Marshall amps, not sure what else was used in the signal chain. I would bet JMP JCM Marshall's with 6550's.
lll
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Awesome! I'll use these.
Here's my quick take on that tune including solo I did awhile back:
lll
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Detune in studio back then was typically Eventide.
Rev
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They used Wizard amps live back then at least on some footage I’ve seen.
I played a wizard metal back when Tone Merchants was in OC and it was spot on to this tone.
I played a wizard metal back when Tone Merchants was in OC and it was spot on to this tone.
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jchrisf
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Even Michael doesn't really know what they used back then as they've used a lot of stuff:
Guitar World Nov. 1990:
I can’t even remember what I’ve got in my rack," says Wilton. "I think I’ve got an FET 900 Carvin power amp, a Tubeswork Mosvalve power amp, a Wizard preamp, an ADA preamp, a Yamaha compressor..." He considers for a moment, and resumes: "Oh yeah, I’ve got an Erickson audio flanger, an ART EQ, a Yamaha SPX 90 II, a Yamaha SPX 900, an Eventide H-3000 S, a Passac eight-channel mixer, a Korg tuner and two Furman power conditioners. "I’m probably leaving some things out," he says. DeGarmo agrees. "The rig I’m using is monstrous." "I’ve got a Carvin FET 900 power amp, a Soldano preamp, a Unity 8 Passac mixer, a SPX 900 Alexicon PCM 70, an ART multiverb, a BBE Sonic Maximizer, a t.c. electronic spatial expander for chorusing and flanging effects, a JBL compressor, and a rig which allows me to patch other amplification devices into my set-up. It was built by Allan Holdsworth. It’s all digital; everything’s 16 Bit processing or higher. I’ve also got one of the new Eventide H-3000 S harmonizers."
http://ampsandgreenscreens.com/2013/06/16/interview-with-michael-wilton-of-queensryche-61013/Amps: I understand you used a lot of gear from the Mindcrime/Empire-era for recording. How was it going back to that, and did it have any impact on your writing mindset for this record?
Michael: Yeah, I still have all my old amps and guitars. We recorded the guitar parts for the album at my place, Watershed Studio where I have my arsenal of Marshall amplifiers, the JCM 800s that were used on Mindcrime, and for the tried and true lead sound we used the Roland JC-120. You know, (former guitarist) Chris DeGarmo and I have used that amp on so many different songs. It’s one of those things that just works great, and I hope they still make them!
As an artist and a musician, you get the inspiration, and try to get out of your own way and just let it happen. Then you throw it on the wall and you see if it sticks. But otherwise you just write what you feel and what’s true. You know, like I said, we have to thread the past, and you can’t get away from something that worked so well, because you get used to those elements, and those albums because they were so special.
Guitar World Nov. 1990:
I can’t even remember what I’ve got in my rack," says Wilton. "I think I’ve got an FET 900 Carvin power amp, a Tubeswork Mosvalve power amp, a Wizard preamp, an ADA preamp, a Yamaha compressor..." He considers for a moment, and resumes: "Oh yeah, I’ve got an Erickson audio flanger, an ART EQ, a Yamaha SPX 90 II, a Yamaha SPX 900, an Eventide H-3000 S, a Passac eight-channel mixer, a Korg tuner and two Furman power conditioners. "I’m probably leaving some things out," he says. DeGarmo agrees. "The rig I’m using is monstrous." "I’ve got a Carvin FET 900 power amp, a Soldano preamp, a Unity 8 Passac mixer, a SPX 900 Alexicon PCM 70, an ART multiverb, a BBE Sonic Maximizer, a t.c. electronic spatial expander for chorusing and flanging effects, a JBL compressor, and a rig which allows me to patch other amplification devices into my set-up. It was built by Allan Holdsworth. It’s all digital; everything’s 16 Bit processing or higher. I’ve also got one of the new Eventide H-3000 S harmonizers."
http://ampsandgreenscreens.com/2013/06/16/interview-with-michael-wilton-of-queensryche-61013/Amps: I understand you used a lot of gear from the Mindcrime/Empire-era for recording. How was it going back to that, and did it have any impact on your writing mindset for this record?
Michael: Yeah, I still have all my old amps and guitars. We recorded the guitar parts for the album at my place, Watershed Studio where I have my arsenal of Marshall amplifiers, the JCM 800s that were used on Mindcrime, and for the tried and true lead sound we used the Roland JC-120. You know, (former guitarist) Chris DeGarmo and I have used that amp on so many different songs. It’s one of those things that just works great, and I hope they still make them!
As an artist and a musician, you get the inspiration, and try to get out of your own way and just let it happen. Then you throw it on the wall and you see if it sticks. But otherwise you just write what you feel and what’s true. You know, like I said, we have to thread the past, and you can’t get away from something that worked so well, because you get used to those elements, and those albums because they were so special.
Riffraff
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The guitar tones on Mindcrime are my all-time favorite.
I stumbled on this guys youtube page while looking for something one day and was blown away by his spot on covers. He does the whole album.
https://www.youtube.com/user/powerslave88
I stumbled on this guys youtube page while looking for something one day and was blown away by his spot on covers. He does the whole album.
https://www.youtube.com/user/powerslave88
JF Scarfi
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One of my favorite two guitar player bands.
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Metalone72
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I always wondered if that was a typo and meant to be ”clean” and not “lead”. Has anyone used a JC-120 for leads?
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Racerxrated
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Never. Clean always. Has to be a typo. I saw the Mindcrime tour and it was all 800s
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harddriver
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I was there for the Mindcrime tour in 1987 Minneapolis MN and it was Marshall JCM800's.
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Metalone72
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I read an article yesterday from Guitar for the Practicing Musician (October 1988) where DeGarmo says he plays the “‘59” model Marshalls and adds an extra gain stage to them. Says some amps take it well and others don’t. Also that they prefer the cleaner sound.
panhead
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Original band was killer, after DeGarmo left not so much.
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Philhouse
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SPX90 on 'Pitch Change C' setting with a +/-9 fine pitch setting can sound exactly like that effect
lll
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Lots of players use the JC-120 as a pedal platform for distorted tones.
Furthermore, the gear a guitarist uses live on stage isn't necessarily the gear (or only gear) they used in the studio.
Furthermore, the gear a guitarist uses live on stage isn't necessarily the gear (or only gear) they used in the studio.