Question about the Mesa Rectoverb/Tremoverb combos

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Is there a reason these things are so suspiciously cheap? I've seen a ton of them for the 500-700 price range. The heads, however, have fetched as much as 1200 making it more in the price point of other used rectifiers. Do the combos have reliability issues? And while we are on the subject, how good are these in a live setting?
 
Honestly i believe it is a mix of two things. One is demand, the second is weight. I waited about a year for an early model T-verb head to pop up - wanted one for years but they are getting very hard to find - let alone tremoverb heads in general which is why they are fetching more.

Nothing wrong with the tremoverb combo's and i have seen a few of them that if you know what details to look for, the amplifiers themselves are as good and also in better shape than an equivalent 120W early model T-verb. I just prefer the head cabinet design for a guitar amplifier. Nothing wrong with head-mounting a tremoverb combo either - but people are picky and this is a buyers market.
 
glpg80":sxeysov0 said:
Honestly i believe it is a mix of two things. One is demand, the second is weight. I waited about a year for an early model T-verb head to pop up - wanted one for years but they are getting very hard to find - let alone tremoverb heads in general which is why they are fetching more.

Nothing wrong with the tremoverb combo's and i have seen a few of them that if you know what details to look for, the amplifiers themselves are as good and also in better shape than an equivalent 120W early model T-verb. I just prefer the head cabinet design for a guitar amplifier. Nothing wrong with head-mounting a tremoverb combo either - but people are picky and this is a buyers market.
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Can you give a short reason as to why you mention "early model" tremoverbs a few times? I've noticed this mentioned before by some dudes and never knew why the earlier ones are more popular. Thanks.
 
Had a hard time selling a Tremoverb head for $900 a short while back. Spent a few months on Craigslist. It was mint with a cover and sounded great (at least in vintage mode).
 
They are super heavy and trying to ship that combo is insane. That kills the resale value. IMO
 
Fair enough-- most of the ones i found were on the GC used section or other sites such as musicgoround. Just wanted to make sure these weren't duds. The mark V combo I had was stellar but I have no experience with older Mesa products.
 
loudgtr":3tae4c3l said:
glpg80":3tae4c3l said:
Honestly i believe it is a mix of two things. One is demand, the second is weight. I waited about a year for an early model T-verb head to pop up - wanted one for years but they are getting very hard to find - let alone tremoverb heads in general which is why they are fetching more.

Nothing wrong with the tremoverb combo's and i have seen a few of them that if you know what details to look for, the amplifiers themselves are as good and also in better shape than an equivalent 120W early model T-verb. I just prefer the head cabinet design for a guitar amplifier. Nothing wrong with head-mounting a tremoverb combo either - but people are picky and this is a buyers market.
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Can you give a short reason as to why you mention "early model" tremoverbs a few times? I've noticed this mentioned before by some dudes and never knew why the earlier ones are more popular. Thanks.
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Build quality and transformers used are two biggies - they are built like brick shit houses. It dwarfs the build quality of my 5150 II.
 
I have one of the first year run Tverbs. It was a combo at one time. I think they only made combos the first production year? Too damn heavy so it was made into a head. It is far and away the best mesa, let alone dual rec, I've ever heard and owned.

Im not sure why tverbs wont sell unless its just that new players dont know what they are. Great amps.
 
Great amps, Mike Einziger from Incubus gets a majority of his record tone from those.
 
I have a series one rectoverb I can tell you it's an awesome amp, very well built, lots of distortion on tap. I bought it on ebay a while back not realizing the issues there are with shipping an 80lb amp. When I got it the speaker was destroyed from shipping as well as the tubes and reverb. So even though I got an insanely great deal on it (I bid at the last second and won this thing for $450) after all the repairs were done from the damage during shipping I paid an extra $400 just for that. I think thats why the price is low. Low demand on shipping amps. At GC maybe another story, could be THEY know theres something wrong with it. But the amp itself the tone is amazing. I'd love to find one at a CG or other music store to test it out though because I still think my vintage channel is off, it sounds very bassy and the solo circuit doesnt always work... yay more repairs. I'll just use the modern channel for now lol. long story short. I LOVE this amp, it does everything I could ask for, but don't EVER buy one off ebay. EVER.
 
Caligulove":52mmkgct said:
Great amps, Mike Einziger from Incubus gets a majority of his record tone from those.
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Last album Mike used these extensively on was morning view and even then it was getting less and less use due to his jazz leanings when they replaced Alex on bass. That's the point he changed from PRS and mesa to Fender and Vox/Marshall. But that's also the point Incubus lost their groove and their edge and dare I say it, sold out.

I miss my old T-verb combo terribly(was sent back after the switching relays died twice in the space of a month after getting it) and I'm always looking for another even though the parallel loop puts me off and I cant integrate it into my current switching system. Definitely the best recto Mesa ever offered.
 
I think it is the weight ..... that & the fact most people want a closed cab when using a recto for most sounds.
My Tremoverb is not for sale....but you can check out mine if you want.
 
I bought a Rectoverb for a local kid looking for a good amp a few years ago. It is fantastic, but like others have said, heavy.
Great sounding with his band. Huge tone out of a small package.
 
T-Verbs are fantastic and versatile amps. I used one for over 10 years, probably did around 600 shows on it, toured it heavily (without an ATA case!) and it never gave me any problems whatsoever.

The only problem with them is this.....

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Halikus":77kpu74p said:
Caligulove":77kpu74p said:
Great amps, Mike Einziger from Incubus gets a majority of his record tone from those.
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Last album Mike used these extensively on was morning view and even then it was getting less and less use due to his jazz leanings when they replaced Alex on bass. That's the point he changed from PRS and mesa to Fender and Vox/Marshall. But that's also the point Incubus lost their groove and their edge and dare I say it, sold out.

I miss my old T-verb combo terribly(was sent back after the switching relays died twice in the space of a month after getting it) and I'm always looking for another even though the parallel loop puts me off and I cant integrate it into my current switching system. Definitely the best recto Mesa ever offered.
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He's back to using the Tremoverbs. There's a recent youtube video of him going over his pedals and you can see the Tremoverbs. And he's using Ernie Ball guitars now.
 
Dunno too much about the T-Verbs, but I've played a few ROV Series II's, and they're damn fine amps. It's a bit irritating about the effects loop being parallel, but other than that, it's an awesome amp. For the money they go for, they're well worth their weight. :D
 
rlord1974":2rrays8w said:
T-Verbs are fantastic and versatile amps. I used one for over 10 years, probably did around 600 shows on it, toured it heavily (without an ATA case!) and it never gave me any problems whatsoever.

The only problem with them is this.....

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noooooooooooooo joking. Built like brick shit houses and heavy enough to prove it. I love the quality but damn they have some weight to them. One thing is for sure though - once you start hauling it around - after a while you really do not notice it :lol: :LOL:
 
Great for gigs but does zero good around the house/shop/etc.
 
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