Question on a Multi-Amp Rig (Wet/Dry/Wet)

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I am trying to set up a Wet / Dry / Wet rig. I have 3 combo amplifiers. I want it to be pretty much how Brian May sets his up. The center amp dry, while all the stereo effects are coming through only the left, and right amplifiers.

My question is how would i set this up? I thought what i needed was a splitter, so i would connect my guitar to the splitter, having one output to the center (dry) amp, while the other output from the splitter goes through the stereo pedals, then the stereo outs from the last pedal goes into the left and right wet amps.

It seems like i can only find splitters that convert a stereo signal into 2 mono signals, which is not what i need. Do they make one that takes 1 Mono Signal and sends it into two other mono signals? i have no clue.

Does anyone have any ideas or advice on this?
 
You would take a signal off the dry amp, feed it to the FX, 100% wet out of FX into the L/R amps. ;)
 
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.
 
GOHOINC":vtmw14b3 said:
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.


In this setup how do you get the distorted signal to fx? it would just be a clean guitar signal.
 
Shark Diver":1w7otex5 said:
GOHOINC":1w7otex5 said:
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.


In this setup how do you get the distorted signal to fx? it would just be a clean guitar signal.

I'm missing where this comes in to the conversation... I didn't see where the OP wanted one amp driving the others at all, just that they wanted one dry signal and 2 wets, with one on each side. Most distortion pedals are mono anyway so put it before the ABY to send to all three or as the first pedal after the ABY and before the stereo effects to send to just wet. If it is amp distortion that is needed then you need some sort of channel switching solution like RJM stuff or the Voodoolab control switcher.

I used to run a similar setup to what I interpret the OP is asking for myself. I used a Vlab amp selector along with 2 control switchers and a commander. I went from my mono stompboxes to a radial bigshot ABY then to the amp selector with both outputs from the ABY. Then from the amp selector I went to a VH4S on output 1, then to a Mobius and Timeline and an EB stereo volume/pan pedal out to a Soldano Decatone and my ecstasy classic on outputs 3 and 4. The VH4S was my center and the other two were right and left. This allowed me to get crazy panning effects from side to side stereo but keep a dedicated center channel that wasnt affected, er effected... The control switchers and commander were used for simultaneous channel switching on three heads.
 
GOHOINC":19vgbzh3 said:
Shark Diver":19vgbzh3 said:
GOHOINC":19vgbzh3 said:
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.


In this setup how do you get the distorted signal to fx? it would just be a clean guitar signal.

I'm missing where this comes in to the conversation... I didn't see where the OP wanted one amp driving the others at all, just that they wanted one dry signal and 2 wets, with one on each side. Most distortion pedals are mono anyway so put it before the ABY to send to all three or as the first pedal after the ABY and before the stereo effects to send to just wet. If it is amp distortion that is needed then you need some sort of channel switching solution like RJM stuff or the Voodoolab control switcher.

I used to run a similar setup to what I interpret the OP is asking for myself. I used a Vlab amp selector along with 2 control switchers and a commander. I went from my mono stompboxes to a radial bigshot ABY then to the amp selector with both outputs from the ABY. Then from the amp selector I went to a VH4S on output 1, then to a Mobius and Timeline and an EB stereo volume/pan pedal out to a Soldano Decatone and my ecstasy classic on outputs 3 and 4. The VH4S was my center and the other two were right and left. This allowed me to get crazy panning effects from side to side stereo but keep a dedicated center channel that wasnt affected, er effected... The control switchers and commander were used for simultaneous channel switching on three heads.


I'm not trying to fight about it. I don't see where he is using distortion pedals either.

For years I simply ran a SLO dry to a cab. Slave out of the SLO into a 2290, left and right to a stereo power amp, into 2 cabs (could be the combo amps). If you are getting your any gain/tone from your amp, you need take a signal off the amp. If it's from pedals then sure, you could split the signal after the distortion/gain pedals. I simply don't think that is the best way. The way I suggest would be the way you would most likely do it in a studio for recording. You want to use fx with the full amp tone, so you would want to tap that signal after the power section of the dry. Ideally.

But there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, yours is just as valid. Not really enough info from the OP to know how he runs his rig.
 
ayjayhirsch":29fptm11 said:
It seems like i can only find splitters that convert a stereo signal into 2 mono signals, which is not what i need. Do they make one that takes 1 Mono Signal and sends it into two other mono signals? i have no clue.

Does anyone have any ideas or advice on this?


Lehle P-Split II will do the job.
 
Shark Diver":30grrytg said:
GOHOINC":30grrytg said:
Shark Diver":30grrytg said:
GOHOINC":30grrytg said:
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.


In this setup how do you get the distorted signal to fx? it would just be a clean guitar signal.

I'm missing where this comes in to the conversation... I didn't see where the OP wanted one amp driving the others at all, just that they wanted one dry signal and 2 wets, with one on each side. Most distortion pedals are mono anyway so put it before the ABY to send to all three or as the first pedal after the ABY and before the stereo effects to send to just wet. If it is amp distortion that is needed then you need some sort of channel switching solution like RJM stuff or the Voodoolab control switcher.

I used to run a similar setup to what I interpret the OP is asking for myself. I used a Vlab amp selector along with 2 control switchers and a commander. I went from my mono stompboxes to a radial bigshot ABY then to the amp selector with both outputs from the ABY. Then from the amp selector I went to a VH4S on output 1, then to a Mobius and Timeline and an EB stereo volume/pan pedal out to a Soldano Decatone and my ecstasy classic on outputs 3 and 4. The VH4S was my center and the other two were right and left. This allowed me to get crazy panning effects from side to side stereo but keep a dedicated center channel that wasnt affected, er effected... The control switchers and commander were used for simultaneous channel switching on three heads.


I'm not trying to fight about it. I don't see where he is using distortion pedals either.

For years I simply ran a SLO dry to a cab. Slave out of the SLO into a 2290, left and right to a stereo power amp, into 2 cabs (could be the combo amps). If you are getting your any gain/tone from your amp, you need take a signal off the amp. If it's from pedals then sure, you could split the signal after the distortion/gain pedals. I simply don't think that is the best way. The way I suggest would be the way you would most likely do it in a studio for recording. You want to use fx with the full amp tone, so you would want to tap that signal after the power section of the dry. Ideally.

But there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, yours is just as valid. Not really enough info from the OP to know how he runs his rig.

Oh no fighting to be done here either. I thought I had missed something. You are certainly right about skinning a cat... I like dynamite, skin comes right off...
 
GOHOINC":7di9lq14 said:
Shark Diver":7di9lq14 said:
GOHOINC":7di9lq14 said:
Shark Diver":7di9lq14 said:
GOHOINC":7di9lq14 said:
ABY box before your stereo effects. A signal to dry amp, B to stereo effects, stereo effects to wet amps? Or is your guitar stereo?

Or a Voodoo labs amp selector maybe. You can do 1 input or 2 inputs and as many as four outputs.


In this setup how do you get the distorted signal to fx? it would just be a clean guitar signal.

I'm missing where this comes in to the conversation... I didn't see where the OP wanted one amp driving the others at all, just that they wanted one dry signal and 2 wets, with one on each side. Most distortion pedals are mono anyway so put it before the ABY to send to all three or as the first pedal after the ABY and before the stereo effects to send to just wet. If it is amp distortion that is needed then you need some sort of channel switching solution like RJM stuff or the Voodoolab control switcher.

I used to run a similar setup to what I interpret the OP is asking for myself. I used a Vlab amp selector along with 2 control switchers and a commander. I went from my mono stompboxes to a radial bigshot ABY then to the amp selector with both outputs from the ABY. Then from the amp selector I went to a VH4S on output 1, then to a Mobius and Timeline and an EB stereo volume/pan pedal out to a Soldano Decatone and my ecstasy classic on outputs 3 and 4. The VH4S was my center and the other two were right and left. This allowed me to get crazy panning effects from side to side stereo but keep a dedicated center channel that wasnt affected, er effected... The control switchers and commander were used for simultaneous channel switching on three heads.


I'm not trying to fight about it. I don't see where he is using distortion pedals either.

For years I simply ran a SLO dry to a cab. Slave out of the SLO into a 2290, left and right to a stereo power amp, into 2 cabs (could be the combo amps). If you are getting your any gain/tone from your amp, you need take a signal off the amp. If it's from pedals then sure, you could split the signal after the distortion/gain pedals. I simply don't think that is the best way. The way I suggest would be the way you would most likely do it in a studio for recording. You want to use fx with the full amp tone, so you would want to tap that signal after the power section of the dry. Ideally.

But there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, yours is just as valid. Not really enough info from the OP to know how he runs his rig.

Oh no fighting to be done here either. I thought I had missed something. You are certainly right about skinning a cat... I like dynamite, skin comes right off...


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