Questions for you "Slave Out for Wet/Dry" Folks

[FourT6and2]

I've never tried running a wet/dry rig before. But I wired up my SLO Clone's Slave Out. I'm going to try running it to my TC Flashback for delay. Then into the FX return of my Peters, to its own cab.

Questions:

1. I don't run the delay all the time. Just for certain parts of certain songs. So... how do I turn the Wet signal on/off? If I turn the delay off, I'm still going to get the dry sound from the Peters right? What if I don't want that? A potential solve might be to get some type of pedal that mutes the signal (like a tuner) and throw that before the delay?

2. TC has a killdry function. Should I use that or just turn the FX Level up to 100%?

3. If using killdry, how should I set the FX Level on the pedal? Turn it up to 100% and use the Slave Out level and the master on the Peters for levels? The Slave Out level should be adjusting how hot the signal is to the pedal. Then the pedal level is how hot the signal is to the power amp of the Peters. Then the Peters' master is the overall volume of the wet signal. Seems like a lot to juggle.

4. Should I even use the killdry or should I run it as normal and blend the wet/dry signal? I guess if I do it that way the setup would be SLO = dry, Peters = a mix of wet/dry. Vs. running the pedal 100% wet.

5. Would I be better off using something like the Suhr Buffer box, that has isolated out to reduce ground loops and a phase switch? http://www.suhr.com/buffer/

 

[steve_k]

Easiest way to do that is with a small mixer, like the RJM line mixer. Mix the compensated line level signal from the slave of the SLO with the Flashback delay. Isn't there a dip switch inside the Flashback for kill dry? Did you set the Slave on the SLO up with a certain db cut or is it adjustable?

 

[FourT6and2]

Easiest way to do that is with a small mixer, like the RJM line mixer. Mix the compensated line level signal from the slave of the SLO with the Flashback delay. Isn't there a dip switch inside the Flashback for kill dry? Did you set the Slave on the SLO up with a certain db cut or is it adjustable?

Yeah, Flashback has killdry switch. And Slave Out has a level control.

If I use the RJM Line Mixer I'd then have to use a switcher, like the Gizmo to then switch the Wet signal on/off right? Seems like just using a tuner pedal to mute the signal before the delay pedal would be easier and cheaper, no?

 

[rusty1070]

Volume pedal perhaps? Does the flashback work well in the loop?

 

[FourT6and2]

Volume pedal perhaps? Does the flashback work well in the loop?

It's an SLO. Nothing works well in its loop.

 

[FourT6and2]

So I hooked everything up today and guess what? Apparently the Flashback mutes the dry signal in Killdry mode when the pedal is off too. So no issues. I thought it only muted the dry signal when engaged.

Man... running delay post power section is pretty awesome. I've never heard high-gain delay so clear before.

 

[cardinal]

Yeah, I just read the OP and was coming to type that bit about killdry and muting the entire signal, but you got it sorted out. There is no dry signal with killdry, so when you turn off the delay effect, you shouldn't hear anything from the Peters.

What's really great about running the delay wet/dry is that the wet amp and speaker really don't matter that much. Sure, it sounds glorious if your wet amp is a 100 watter pushing another 4x12, but it still sounds better than any loop if you just use a cheap EHX .22 caliber amp and a random 1x12 that you can find.

 

[aw9190]

I just got an SLO and i was wondering how i would use the slave out. I use chorus, delay, and verb. I tried running them through the loop, but it changed the way the amp sounded and felt. Had to re-eq all the highs and it still was missing something. I may try this wet/dry combo as i have a little epiphone valve junior that could power the effects. Is it bad to run a slaved signal into the front of another amp or does it have to bypass the preamp and go into the effects return?

 

[FourT6and2]

I just got an SLO and i was wondering how i would use the slave out. I use chorus, delay, and verb. I tried running them through the loop, but it changed the way the amp sounded and felt. Had to re-eq all the highs and it still was missing something. I may try this wet/dry combo as i have a little epiphone valve junior that could power the effects. Is it bad to run a slaved signal into the front of another amp or does it have to bypass the preamp and go into the effects return?

I think you can do it either way. But running it straight into a power amp (or an FX return) is probably better because you won't be running the signal through more gain stages and a second tone stack (unless you want to do that).

 

[rusty1070]

I use the slave out with delay on my Hydra/FSM to another amp because my delays don't sound right in the loop (Echoplex, Ad9, Danecho). I don't audibly notice the slave amp until the delay is engaged. Does the flashback work well in your Hydra's loop? I was thinking of trying one out. I'm imagining running both your SLO and Peters via an a/b/y with delay in the Peters loop would be incredible too!

 

[FourT6and2]

I use the slave out with delay on my Hydra/FSM to another amp because my delays don't sound right in the loop (Echoplex, Ad9, Danecho). I don't audibly notice the slave amp until the delay is engaged. Does the flashback work well in your Hydra's loop? I was thinking of trying one out. I'm imagining running both your SLO and Peters via an a/b/y with delay in the Peters loop would be incredible too!

The Flashback sounds pretty good in the Hydra's loop. No problems there.

With the W/D setup using the Flashback in killdry mode, there is no dry signal, even with the delay off. I could try running the Hydra and SLO with an a/b/y. Although I have no real need to run multiple amps. But hell, why not!

I have a GNL on the way as we speak, too!

 

[siggy14]

EVH has done this way for years and so have so many other people. Best way to run your effects is actually after the MIC at the board but it is hard getting sound guy to do that for you.

 

[yngwiestrat]

FWIW my current live rig consists of Running two of my modded marshalls stereo through the front of the amp and running delays/modulation/boost through the effects loop through only one. huge sound