Rebuilt a kahler….

[jack butler]

There's a set screw under the fine tuners. I just set one up for a guy where it's blocked out.

That screw makes it a fixed bridge, not dive only. Not sure why you would want it dive only though. My Kahler guitars don't detune the other strings when bending notes, and I thought that was the only reason to make a Floyd dive only?

 

[vultures]

That screw makes it a fixed bridge, not dive only. Not sure why you would want it dive only though. My Kahler guitars don't detune the other strings when bending notes, and I thought that was the only reason to make a Floyd dive only?

You can dive a little bit, but the screw gets in the way so yes it's essentially blocked. I did it at his request because he complained about:

• Tuning Stability
• Locking nut being unusable and getting in the way of the truss rod
• Roller saddles rusted in place
• Saddles themselves rusted to that swing-arm so that when he did dive bomb they would get stuck in the up position.

I hate that the intonation screw is directly under the string, the same as Floyds, but the action height is also under the string. From a tech/luthier experience, there are infinitely more things that frustrate me about a Kahler than any other trem out there.

 

[cardinal]

That screw makes it a fixed bridge, not dive only. Not sure why you would want it dive only though. My Kahler guitars don't detune the other strings when bending notes, and I thought that was the only reason to make a Floyd dive only?

Dive only lets you drop tune with the fine tuners but still be able to dive bomb.

 

[jack butler]

Dive only lets you drop tune with the fine tuners but still be able to dive bomb.

Kahlers can drop "D" with just the bridge tuner and the other strings aren't affected without locking the bridge.

 

[cardinal]

Kahlers can drop "D" with just the bridge tuner and the other strings aren't affected without locking the bridge.

I don't see how that's possible. It's a floating bridge?

 

[BeZo]

I don't see how that's possible. It's a floating bridge?

It doesn't float. It a roller bridge that changes the pitch by moving the anchor point behind the bridge. It's kinda more like a Bigsby, but more precisely tuned. Where a Floyd moves the whole bridge up and down from a balance point, a Kahler just tightens and loosens the strings behind the bridge. That's why you don't have to worry about a "balance point" like you do on a floating bridge.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Even my counterfeit kahler from Japan is solid as fuck….

 

[jack butler]

Also any guitar with a Kahler, unless it has been recessed (which is very rare) the neck has to be angled like a Gibson. Almost all Floyd Rose guitars don't have any neck angle as far as I know. The only Floyd guitar I've played with any neck angle is the early Washburn Dime 333. The neck being angled makes so much much difference to me for some reason.

 

[cardinal]

It doesn't float. It a roller bridge that changes the pitch by moving the anchor point behind the bridge. It's kinda more like a Bigsby, but more precisely tuned. Where a Floyd moves the whole bridge up and down from a balance point, a Kahler just tightens and loosens the strings behind the bridge. That's why you don't have to worry about a "balance point" like you do on a floating bridge.

It does balance. There are springs underneath it and you set the point by adjusting the cam set screw in the center of the cam that Kahler calls the Spring Tension Adjuster (just like adjusting the spring claw on a Floyd).