Recorded distortion sounds like crap, dual rectifier

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Aight, Im trying to do some recordings and my distortion sucks. The amp distortion is great and whats coming out of the speakers (half stack) and thats fine, but the issue is #1 it sucks recorded and #2 its getting some hiss and fuzz (tubes?) EVEN THOUGH i have a decimator noise gate. It cuts some of it out but not all. And I cant turn it up because I live in an apartment.

So now, How I have it run... I have my guitar going through some dist pedals (which im not using, im using the mesa head vintage dist), delay (Im aware the delay is supposed to go in the loop) then noise gate, then into the front of the amp. Now, In the recorded track I posted shows two ways, #1 coming off the slave with the loop activated with my other pedals (left channel) and #2 (right channel) coming off the send of the loop when its not active. (They arent meant to be synced) Both give different sounds, but the hiss is still there. I suppose I can get an attenuator but that might not fix the hiss. The hiss isnt really noticable when im playing but if i start a track you can hear it.
 

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I think you'll just have to mic it up because the slave out just sucks.

You can get some good tone out of that amp at bedroom volumes, most of my tracks were done at that volume.
 
Want easy to record buy H&K Red Box or Radial JDX. No mics and sounds as good as your cab with no bleed. Plug it in between head and cab and take DI out to recorder...done
 
Yeah your amp is not really meant to record the way you're trying it. I think it would sound better with a mic on the cab even at apartment levels.
 
As stated above.......you need to get a good mic to really get your recordings to sound good. The only way to get any kind of direct signal to record well would be to have the signal pass thru something with a cab simulator or something of that nature. Ive done great sounding recordings at low volumne with a mic on the cab. And why have the dist pedal in line if your not using it? The more direct the signal to the front of the amp, the better the results IMO.
 
It's almost like you're trying to use your recto as a distortion pedal or direct box. I would bet my lunch money that you could get a way better sound/recording recording directly from a normal, cheap, crappy distortion pedal than you could trying to do it the way you are now. Heck even the cruddy sounding guitar sim software that comes free with most recording software is prolly going to sound better than what you're doing unfortunately. That amp is made for playing live, or recording with a mic on it (preferably at a decent voume). That's where it will be happiest.
 
The slave out isn't a recording out, it's a line level tap from the output section for slaving into another amp.
 
Your best bets:
1) Mic the cab
2) Torpedo C.A.B.
3) FX out into impulses
4) DI such as the Redbox
 
Yup, as others have said you need a speaker - either real or via an IR. I would download the free version of two notes torpedo software and play around with it that way. You will most likely be shocked at the difference.
 
dpeterson":1lugsi9p said:
That torpedo thingy sounds the best I've heard.
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Yup. The two notes is the answer if you can't afford an axe fx but have a decent tube rig.
 
mjtripper":jxvngshw said:
Yup, as others have said you need a speaker - either real or via an IR. I would download the free version of two notes torpedo software and play around with it that way. You will most likely be shocked at the difference.
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What's an IR? I seem to have good equipment, but maybe im just running it wrong? on a scale from 1 - 10 i would say my sound is an 8 for recording. The guy in the korn video is like a 10, and he lists all his equipment, but unfortunately he didnt do a video of his chain so im not exactly sure where hes getting his sound from. And P.S. i hate the way my hot rod and death metal distortion sound via a direct line. It sounds good, but not like this guy in the vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnZxALl6S3I

And Im not talking korn or the 7 string. Im just talking strictly his tone and set up is phenominal. No fuzz, and he uses 2 mics. Im not sure what the yamaha does. I tried writing to the guy but he didnt write back
 
IR is an impulse response. It's a way to apply an eq curve or filter of a mic/speaker/cab/pre combination to a pre or pre/power sound so it sounds like a mic'd amp. You can kind of think of a speaker as an eq and the IR is the output of a method to capture that 'eq' so it can be applied to different things. The same general principle is used for things like reverb. A line or pre out from an amp wouldn't have the eq 'filter' applied yet so you can use an IR to get it to sound like it was. The two notes product is basically an IR based product on steroids and will give you tons of options.
 
Like everyone else is saying, but just to be clear: you should try running from the slave out to a speaker cabinet simulator. There are a number of ways to insert one into your signal chain. You can use a physical box, something like a Two Notes Torpedo or similar. Or like what mjtripper is saying, you can use the "IR" (impulse response") in your recording software.

Speakers add a ton of color to the sound and filter out all that fuzzy high end that you're hearing.

EDIT: and I assume you've been doing this, but to make sure -- even if recording from the slave out, be sure to have a speaker cabinet connected. If the amp is off standby: you must have a speaker connected even if trying to record "silently."
 
Get the free Two Notes application OR a Behringer Ultra-G direct box. Under $40 and sounds great.
 
JerEvil":iot6uh4g said:
Get the free Two Notes application OR a Behringer Ultra-G direct box. Under $40 and sounds great.
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Whats the free two notes application?
 
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