RIP: Witold "Vitek" Kieltyka "Decapitated drummer"

[Code001]

do you think the drummer would want you to mourn his loss.

Since when did we need permission to mourn the loss of someone?

 

[bunghole]

Ok, here it is, one last time for people bent on what they think I'm saying. I was positing that for all extreme metal bands talk about death and dismemberment and whatnot, do you think the drummer would want you to mourn his loss. I wasn't saying he wasn't a talented musician, or that you're a turd if you like his music, or even that he wasn't a cool guy. I was asking if he subscribed to what his music talked about, and what his thoughts would be. For the record, everyone has a right to life, but I have no idea how other religions/theologies feel about death or the afterlife or what, like groups like slayer, or extreme metal bands, or whatever. So maybe instead of getting offended and calling me a fucktard and telling me to go outside, you could just answer the damn question because obviously you know more about "extreme metal" than I do. And I'm not even being sarcastic there at the end when most people end off their post with a sarcastic bit...I know nothing about extreme metal, tried once or twice and couldn't get past the intros, so it's a genuine freakin question about that community.

Ok, a serious response. It doesn't matter if the lyrics of the group matched his own views. A lot of metal bands address the darker side, it doesn't necessarily mean they embrace it. They are just regular people, musicians like any other. In fact, when it comes to extreme metal, the only bunch that actually seems to take all the lyrical subject matter and what not beyond the point of entertainment, art, theatricality, etc, were a select few black metallers. Musicians in the black metal scene, Varg Vikernes being the most well known, were seriously fucked up individuals. But most extreme metal musicians are merely putting their art out there. They're entertainers.

 

[grooveHT]

do you think the drummer would want you to mourn his loss.

Since when did we need permission to mourn the loss of someone?

you don't, I was asking what his take on it would be, thats all.

 

[grooveHT]

Ok, here it is, one last time for people bent on what they think I'm saying. I was positing that for all extreme metal bands talk about death and dismemberment and whatnot, do you think the drummer would want you to mourn his loss. I wasn't saying he wasn't a talented musician, or that you're a turd if you like his music, or even that he wasn't a cool guy. I was asking if he subscribed to what his music talked about, and what his thoughts would be. For the record, everyone has a right to life, but I have no idea how other religions/theologies feel about death or the afterlife or what, like groups like slayer, or extreme metal bands, or whatever. So maybe instead of getting offended and calling me a fucktard and telling me to go outside, you could just answer the damn question because obviously you know more about "extreme metal" than I do. And I'm not even being sarcastic there at the end when most people end off their post with a sarcastic bit...I know nothing about extreme metal, tried once or twice and couldn't get past the intros, so it's a genuine freakin question about that community.

Ok, a serious response. It doesn't matter if the lyrics of the group matched his own views. A lot of metal bands address the darker side, it doesn't necessarily mean they embrace it. They are just regular people, musicians like any other. In fact, when it comes to extreme metal, the only bunch that actually seems to take all the lyrical subject matter and what not beyond the point of entertainment, art, theatricality, etc, were a select few black metallers. Musicians in the black metal scene, Varg Vikernes being the most well known, were seriously fucked up individuals. But most extreme metal musicians are merely putting their art out there. They're entertainers.

dude, thanks for the response. if I didn't phrase it right, thats what I was asking.

 

[ke2]

no, seriously, I'm not sure what the difference between death metal, extreme metal, black metal, and so on is. Nor am I sure what faction/genre/whatever lays claim to the guys going around burning churches, attacking band members, whatever. Heck, who lays claim to slayer, pretty much all of whose songs are fucked up? I'm saying, for guys that praise satan from here to there, and that's like their sole claim to fame, and spread that much bad karma through their music, doesn't it seem contrary to what they would say to mourn their loss? I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm asking if their music's message/band persona/agenda is contrary to mourning their passing.

I'm not even going to bother dignifying a response after reading that. You obviously have no clue about anything relating to extreme metal.

obviously. that's what I was just saying above.[/quote]

Metal has nothing to do with this. He was someone`s son, someone`s friend, possibly someone`s lover. He was a young person who died in a tragic accident, and those who fail to mourn such a tragedy are missing something important in their body chemistry.

 

[Jack Luminous]

is it proper to mourn someone in an extreme metal band?

You have to be fucking kidding. Wow.

no, seriously, I'm not sure what the difference between death metal, extreme metal, black metal, and so on is. Nor am I sure what faction/genre/whatever lays claim to the guys going around burning churches, attacking band members, whatever. Heck, who lays claim to slayer, pretty much all of whose songs are fucked up? I'm saying, for guys that praise satan from here to there, and that's like their sole claim to fame, and spread that much bad karma through their music, doesn't it seem contrary to what they would say to mourn their loss? I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm asking if their music's message/band persona/agenda is contrary to mourning their passing.

No he's not kidding. He's really fucking stupid.

 

[RaceU4her]

Metal has nothing to do with this. He was someone`s son, someone`s friend, possibly someone`s lover. He was a young person who died in a tragic accident, and those who fail to mourn such a tragedy are missing something important in their body chemistry.

he had a wife and kid from what i read

 

[Oblivion DC]

Metal has nothing to do with this. He was someone`s son, someone`s friend, possibly someone`s lover. He was a young person who died in a tragic accident, and those who fail to mourn such a tragedy are missing something important in their body chemistry.

he had a wife and kid from what i read

Damn. I hope that kid will one day know how well regarded his father was.

 

[ke2]

Metal has nothing to do with this. He was someone`s son, someone`s friend, possibly someone`s lover. He was a young person who died in a tragic accident, and those who fail to mourn such a tragedy are missing something important in their body chemistry.

he had a wife and kid from what i read

Exactly! So you could add someone`s father and husband to my rant.

 

[DannyM]

I just found out about this today...........

I met Vitek and Vogg back in November of '05. They played at a little place called The Sanctuary.
They were awesome! I was blown away by how tight and good they sounded.
Vitek was only 21 when I met him........he played the set to perfection, he nailed it....made it look effortless.

This sucks man

RIP Vitek.

 

[duodecim]

ok gents, I'm not aiming to be disrespectful, I'm just sort of musing here, but is it proper to mourn someone in an extreme metal band? I mean, would they just enjoy passing on themselves?

Yes, and in other news, religious people go to their "heaven" so why not celebrate their deaths?

And its sort of ironic in a bad way that a member of the band decapitated would suffer a head injury.

That I totally agree with. It's cynically epic. Hail Decapitated.

(If they continue, it would probably be a good idea for them to change their name to Old Age... )

 

[umm...]

Thats a tragedy, he was a great drummer.

And grooveHT, just because your lyrics talk about something, doesn't mean you practice/believe in it.