Rob Zombie on the grunge trend in the 90's...

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Rogue":ortg46vg said:
maddnotez":ortg46vg said:
As far as "rock star" he's referring to the image.
And Rob Zombie is still full of shit.

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All of these say Rock and Roll, but only one looks quite rediculous. Of course, I am being selective about images to illustrate the point.

And for a finale....

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So true! :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

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or this

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"My music is particularly memorable outside my one hit, so I have to look like this"---Rob Zombie
 
I didn't mind grunge in the 1990s. I never really liked the arena rock 80s hair metal show ponies anyway. It was just Van Halen's California sunset beach party music taken to the extreme with extra cocaine and lipstick.

There was a fresh wave (there, that term "wave") of even harder & aggressive metal in the mid-1990s, particularly with Pantera bringing out The Great Southern Trendkill in 1996. Tool was part of that too. But it was more underground than in the early 1990s, which I actually quite liked.

Another thing about the early 1990s, was that underneath the rise of grunge was the underground rise of death metal. But when I listen to that stuff now, I do feel like it was just the kids doing super extreme versions of their older brothers spooky early 80s Venom and black metal records, or were from the 80s underground death metal scene and finally erupted from their fiery volcano, setting churches alight in the process. There's just this whole "teenagey" aspect to the whole thing.

What I never liked was the rise of nu-metal in the mid to late 1990s and especially around the early 2000s, like Korn & Limp Biscuit. I could not and still cannot stand it at all. To me that was just the 80s emo sooky kids in baggy jeans with 7-string guitars and Dual Rectifiers, but almost 30 and still living at home with their parents, splurging as much burping muddy noise as possible. Horrible.

It's not the same as "rap metal'- rap metal is really cool and done well by bands like Ice Tea (not cube!) in the early and mid 1990s, and even earlier by Anthrax in the mid-late 1980s. Heck, rap bands were doing it in the mid 1980s. Yes that includes the Beastie Boys, who were taking the piss out of the glam hair metal of the time ,that apparently got killed off by grunge. Hmm, we've come full circle!


Alright, enough of the music history rant. I don't really bother much with what's on the radio now. I check out new bands here and there, but am not too fussed. I come across older songs and bands almost like they are brand new to me, or sometimes are brand new to me. I enjoy the discovery.
 
Rock is pretty much dead in this country as far as new original bands except for bands like The Winery Dogs who actually kick major ass. Another great rock band that came out in the early 90's was The Black Crowes. I cannot get into hip hop, rap or any of that stuff. Never could and never will. Now I do like R&B, Jazz, Blues, Fusion, etc.
 
petejt":uqjidqfj said:
crankyrayhanky":uqjidqfj said:
I think you mixed up your Ice Cube & Ice Tea

I did... :(

"He needs some cool tunes
Not just any will suffice.
But they didn't have Ice Cube
So he bought Vanilla Ice."
 
I think Ice T is back on tour with Body Count!!!
 
MTV helped kill rock music when they stopped playing/promoting cool new rock bands/videos, and started playing nothing but rap garbage, then just fake reality shows about retarded losers... It's only gotten worse since then. Now a lot of good bands never get noticed and don't survive due to the oversaturation of mediocrity created by the internet. Record companies are very fickle about investing in a band now unless they see something "commercially marketable" about them. And sadly, it's usually not the quality of their music nowadays.
 
Shit, the most recent discovery of new music that I got excited about was the first album of Pentagram. It technically was new to me :D

 
Who gives a shit what RZ has to say? Seriously.

The fact that no one under 35 years old knows who Big Wreck is and that every child over the age of 6 knows who Ariana Grande is speaks to the fact that among so many other reasons, music is only promoted to a very young demographic. Turn on Nickelodian and you'll see plenty of "artists" being promoted. Most of them are also actors on some kid's show but never the less. Relatively speaking, no money gets spent on TV, to promote music aimed at someone in the 18-54 demo.

And as for Zombie, the only reason I know who he is, is because of the shitty song he did for Howard Stern's movie. And that thing sucks hard and fast.
 
The 'grunge' period including bands that aren't specifically from that scene/sound was the height of 'popular' rock music since the '70s. I didn't read the article because Rob Zombie is known to be full of shit, despite White Zombie doing some cool stuff. Yeah, the '80s are largely an embarrassment with no real lasting value. Get over it old dudes!
 
If you're dismissing a whole decade's worth of music, whether it's the 80s or 00s, they're something very shallow about you
 
"I didn't read the article".... self introspection/criticism is tough for some...
 
I think his point is that some time in the '90s, being a rockstar was not longer associated with being "sexy." It became dominated by figures viewed as dark, depressive, and damaged rather than powerful, flashy, and masculine. That doesn't mean the music suffered for it. To the contrary lots of "grunge" music I think is practically brilliant in how it conveys the artists' emotions. But that level of artistry is just outside of the mainstream.

And I think that image of a dark, depressive, and damaged musician still pervades the perception of modern heavy rock and roll. Guys now seem to be trying to define themselves as "country" as a way to escape that perception.

What's interesting is for Rob Zombie to critique the impact of "grunge," because his image part of the very thing he's complaining about. He has a schtick and it has it's place (I like some of his music a lot), but it's the same thing. He's just not a "sexy" rockstar and will remain out of the mainstream because of it, and I don't know that he would have risen to have the success he's had if not for what "grunge" did to the music scene.
 
Amazing how much anti-grunge sentiment there is of late. It's as if there is a longing for Poison and Warrant and mosquito tones noodling.

That is what killed rock, not grunge.
 
There was so much amazing music that came out between '89 and '94 that wasn't grunge at all. After '94 it all went to the corporate profit model and the cookie cutter floodgates opened as far as the "grunge" thing was concerned. Same in the 80's. Early 80's was full of incredible music and after 84-85 it mostly all went to shit. Appetite is the loan standout in the later 80's and Dr Feelgood is killer too.
Just of the top of my head...

Helmet
Quicksand
Rollins Band
Sonic Youth
Sepultura
Pantera
Machinehead
Raging Slab
Masters Of Reality
At The Gates
Entombed
Carcass
….insert a huge number of killer european metal bands in this period..
 
umm.. Notorious BIG was a really good rapper in the 1990s. just saying...now back to my Sabbath records.
 
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