Rob Zombie on the grunge trend in the 90's...

[skoora]

umm.. Notorious BIG was a really good rapper in the 1990s. just saying...now back to my Sabbath records.

Holy Shit, I totally forgot about all the good Hip Hop that came out between '89 and '94 as well. Snoop, Ice Cube. Lot's of good stuff.

 

[benduncan]

umm.. Notorious BIG was a really good rapper in the 1990s. just saying...now back to my Sabbath records.

Holy Shit, I totally forgot about all the good Hip Hop that came out between '89 and '94 as well. Snoop, Ice Cube. Lot's of good stuff.

How could you?! NWA, Dre, Easy E, Cyprus Hill! "Real muthafuckin g's". I was bumpin that shit at private school in 4th grade, before I knew what metal was and my parents never found out

 

[cardinal]

There was so much amazing music that came out between '89 and '94 that wasn't grunge at all. After '94 it all went to the corporate profit model and the cookie cutter floodgates opened as far as the "grunge" thing was concerned. Same in the 80's. Early 80's was full of incredible music and after 84-85 it mostly all went to shit. Appetite is the loan standout in the later 80's and Dr Feelgood is killer too.
Just of the top of my head...

Helmet
Quicksand
Rollins Band
Sonic Youth
Sepultura
Pantera
Machinehead
Raging Slab
Masters Of Reality
At The Gates
Entombed
Carcass
….insert a huge number of killer european metal bands in this period..

The issue isn't that there was a dearth of talented bands in the US during that period. The issue was that not none of them assumed the mantle of bad-ass, sexy rockstar that's necessary to have mainstream popularity. Hip Hop guys readily assumed that persona, while many rock acts instead took an image as someone marginalized by society or just kinda angry and scary. It is what it is, but Rob Zombie is saying that US-rock has not yet recovered from that, and in general he's probably right.

 

[kasperjensen]

I believe that, as much as labels will push what they have invested in, people can not be made to listen something they don't like.

Perhaps all that 'rock stuff' just ran it's course for the time being?

 

[skoora]

There was so much amazing music that came out between '89 and '94 that wasn't grunge at all. After '94 it all went to the corporate profit model and the cookie cutter floodgates opened as far as the "grunge" thing was concerned. Same in the 80's. Early 80's was full of incredible music and after 84-85 it mostly all went to shit. Appetite is the loan standout in the later 80's and Dr Feelgood is killer too.
Just of the top of my head...

Helmet
Quicksand
Rollins Band
Sonic Youth
Sepultura
Pantera
Machinehead
Raging Slab
Masters Of Reality
At The Gates
Entombed
Carcass
….insert a huge number of killer european metal bands in this period..

The issue isn't that there was a dearth of talented bands in the US during that period. The issue was that not none of them assumed the mantle of bad-ass, sexy rockstar that's necessary to have mainstream popularity. Hip Hop guys readily assumed that persona, while many rock acts instead took an image as someone marginalized by society or just kinda angry and scary. It is what it is, but Rob Zombie is saying that US-rock has not yet recovered from that, and in general he's probably right.

I would agree with that. I remember seeing Kiss in '96 on their first reunion tour and it was such a relief to finally see an amazing spectacle of a rock show. I remember a lot a disagreements with band members back then about being animated and engaging the crowd trying to show some attitude that wasn't suicidal ...I didn't win any of those arguments.

 

[4406cuda]

There was so much amazing music that came out between '89 and '94 that wasn't grunge at all. After '94 it all went to the corporate profit model and the cookie cutter floodgates opened as far as the "grunge" thing was concerned. Same in the 80's. Early 80's was full of incredible music and after 84-85 it mostly all went to shit. Appetite is the loan standout in the later 80's and Dr Feelgood is killer too.
Just of the top of my head...

Helmet
Quicksand
Rollins Band
Sonic Youth
Sepultura
Pantera
Machinehead
Raging Slab
Masters Of Reality
At The Gates
Entombed
Carcass
….insert a huge number of killer european metal bands in this period..

The issue isn't that there was a dearth of talented bands in the US during that period. The issue was that not none of them assumed the mantle of bad-ass, sexy rockstar that's necessary to have mainstream popularity. Hip Hop guys readily assumed that persona, while many rock acts instead took an image as someone marginalized by society or just kinda angry and scary. It is what it is, but Rob Zombie is saying that US-rock has not yet recovered from that, and in general he's probably right.

Not really a fan of them, but Maroon 5 seems very popular with ladies, as far as a sexy Rock Star

 

[cardinal]

^ yeah, Maroon 5 firstFYIt with Harder to Breath or whatever and I thought it was a cool, guitar driven rock track. They've become less so since then I think, but that's the type of band that can revive rock in the mainstream US if promotors could get behind them. Maroon 5's front man is suppose to be incredibly talented, and he apparently decided to bring his band to be more pop-ish than rock-ish. Maybe that's what they told him would sell? Dunno.

 

[skoora]

If the Maroon 5 dude is meant to be a rock star then thank fuck it's dead....

Jim Morrison or Robert Plant would have rocked those acne commercials.