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Monomyth":2llgw7vz said:
It’s not your right to dox the fella here, if you actually read the thread you would know that. Listen, people doing this work should be vetted before hand by years of expierence, working with wood is super difficult.
So the OP didn’t vet the guy enough and now he has no right to out him here ??? Are you serious ??? Am I reading that right Shea ? Because I think Mr Willy has 1900 reasons to rake this motherfucker over the coals.
 
Mr. Willy":11cw8cj3 said:
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Monomyth":11cw8cj3 said:
It’s not your right to dox the fella here, if you actually read the thread you would know that. Listen, people doing this work should be vetted before hand by years of expierence, working with wood is super difficult.

It is ABSOLUTELY my right to reveal who this is and shine a light on his work. Especially considering ALL the circumstances of this transaction. He runs a legitimate repair shop in Nashville. Got a website with pics of his past work, which looked good to me and was ultimately why I chose him. He worked for Gibson Custom Shop. By every account, he portrayed himself as a competent luthier.

But don’t you or anyone else ever tell me what right I have and don’t have. You may have an ethical or moral objection, and that’s fine, but to say it’s not my right? You couldn’t be more wrong.
 
Mr. Willy":3e7orahq said:
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Monomyth":3e7orahq said:
It’s not your right to dox the fella here, if you actually read the thread you would know that. Listen, people doing this work should be vetted before hand by years of expierence, working with wood is super difficult.

It is ABSOLUTELY my right to reveal who this is and shine a light on his work. Especially considering ALL the circumstances of this transaction. He runs a legitimate repair shop in Nashville. Got a website with pics of his past work, which looked good to me and was ultimately why I chose him. He worked for Gibson Custom Shop. By every account, he portrayed himself as a competent luthier.

But don’t you or anyone else ever tell me what right I have and don’t have. You may have an ethical or moral objection, and that’s fine, but to say it’s not my right? You couldn’t be more wrong.

I was wrong, I’m sorry. I got this twisted up, I read through the thread and thought op was upset and was looking to settle a dispute while somebody else doxxed the person in question.
 
You can see where my brain is at, pretty much over the mob.
 
romanianreaper":2il7eu5l said:
Well so you don't feel like it is a complete frustrating loss, I will say that the guitar as a whole looks nice man. It sucks that with what you paid that the dude skipped out on certain parts like filling, etc. He is doing the work anyway, why the hell wouldn't he make sure every single detail is taken care of?

Unfortunately it seems like people are doing this more and more in all types of jobs. Without sounding like an old man, people just don't focus on the details like they used to.

The last 10% of any project is what separates the beginners/novices from the experts/professionals. The OP’s guitar is at 85%. :aww:
 
Monomyth":1pxe46up said:
You can see where my brain is at, pretty much over the mob.

I feel you man. No worries. Everyone’s a bit touchy these days, myself included.

I hate being in this situation. All I wanted was for my beloved guitar to be restored to glory. What I got was, in a sense, better than what I had. But it certainly wasn’t up to what I paid for or what I wanted.

I will reveal who this is tomorrow. We’ve texted each other a few times today. I’ve asked more than once if he’s going to give me any amount of refund. He has yet to respond to that question. I’ve done everything I could up to this point for him to make this right. He’s offered an apology. While I appreciate that, it’s simply not enough.

I don’t want this person harassed. I don’t want him to loose his business. I HATE cancel culture with a passion. I don’t wish him ill will. I will forgive this and move on. I hope if he learns anything from this, that he at least realizes the need for him to have better communication. I would be beyond foolish to ever send him any work ever again, even if it were to fix what he’s done to my guitar.
 
I would not be able to afford a mistake like this if it was my guitar. I'm also the type that doesn't spend that kind of money on a new guitar let alone an aged/worked invoice. I didn't even realize that the radius work was supposed to be done. So for him to refuse to fix it and to be slow with the communications is unacceptable. Unfortunately, it may take a thread like this to get the problem resolved - which in fact, is the saddest part of the whole thing as otherwise, it seems nothing was going to happen :aww:

Otherwise, the guitar looks awesome man - hope you can ultimately enjoy it.
 
311splawndude":17usarb0 said:
I would not be able to afford a mistake like this if it was my guitar. I'm also the type that doesn't spend that kind of money on a new guitar let alone an aged/worked invoice. I didn't even realize that the radius work was supposed to be done. So for him to refuse to fix it and to be slow with the communications is unacceptable. Unfortunately, it may take a thread like this to get the problem resolved - which in fact, is the saddest part of the whole thing as otherwise, it seems nothing was going to happen :aww:

Otherwise, the guitar looks awesome man - hope you can ultimately enjoy it.

I saved up for this work. As I said earlier, he quoted me a guesstimate price of $900-1100. Then needed $700 to get started. I thought that was off that original quote. I was wrong. It was in addition to the guesstimate. He did not make that clear. I had issues about that that we talked over the phone about. I had originally thought he intentionally mislead me. I relented to it being miscommunication on both our parts. Just wanted my guitar back at that point. I had to wait two paycheck cycles to pay what I owed so he send my guitar to me. What I thought was going to be an approximately 1100-1300 bill ended up being 1900. My original budget was from my last tax returns. Since my youngest son is out of daycare, which is nearly $500 a month, I was able to pay him the remaining balance after he’d finished with funds from two of my paychecks.
 
Also, to give credit where credit is due, the frets look and feel good. She’s setup very well. She’s always sounded good so that’s a given. I’m just bummed over what I paid versus the totality of what I received.
 
File the PP or CC claim and be done with it. The work is bad, price charged even worse. The fact that he let the guitar leave like that and when you called him on it tried to get out of it is enough.

Out him, file the claim, and take your guitar elsewhere for the work.
 
Who goes from "conservative guesstimate of $900-$1100" when asking for $700 to get started to suddenly jumping to $1800+ after he has your money? Without even getting into the rookie-looking fingerboard damage he did, I REALLY don't like this guy. That's some shady business practice right there.
 
You should get at least $800 back. If the "conservative" estimate was $900 to $1,100 there is no way you should have paid $1,900. Your guitar was held ransom and you had no way of getting it back. There is no way this costs that much. $500 for a fret job on the high side and $1,300 for a paint job? NO WAY! This is $600 tops. This is theft in my opinion. You never agreed to this price. NO way you should be paying for it. Also, from the pictures, the guitar looks like a les paul standard with a custom headstock. Good luck.
 
OP, you should get in touch with Lee at GMW and ask him for an estimate. I have an 84 Charvel I’m going to be sending him for some work. Very fair quotes.
 
Racerxrated":1zw9hudt said:
OP, you should get in touch with Lee at GMW and ask him for an estimate. I have an 84 Charvel I’m going to be sending him for some work. Very fair quotes.

I actually thought about sending it them. Aren’t they on the West Coast?
 
Wizard of Ozz":gdvler3y said:
File the PP or CC claim and be done with it. The work is bad, price charged even worse. The fact that he let the guitar leave like that and when you called him on it tried to get out of it is enough.

Out him, file the claim, and take your guitar elsewhere for the work.

I’m going to do all of that. Got the guitar in late Tuesday afternoon. Had then and that evening to process the job I got back. Had work and church yesterday. Didn’t not get home until 9:00. I’m going take care of all of that soon.
 
Mr. Willy":2x3hmq9y said:
Racerxrated":2x3hmq9y said:
OP, you should get in touch with Lee at GMW and ask him for an estimate. I have an 84 Charvel I’m going to be sending him for some work. Very fair quotes.

I actually thought about sending it them. Aren’t they on the West Coast?
Yes. But many here have had work done by Lee and he does impeccable work.
 
If the guitar doesn't hold semtimental value, you may want to consider getting it out of your life. Purchase a replacement.
 
Like many have already said, for that price, even the initial 900-1100 for a refret and refinish, the guitar show have looked like a brand new guitar or close to it, period....it seems he is using the relic avenue to cover his complete lack of ethics and detail. If relicing was never discussed then someone was not making themselves clear enough about what the job entailed either from his or your perspective. If you gave this guy any leeway during the conversation about what was expected at those prices then some blame may be partially yours, but I think he would be ashamed at charging that price and letting a guitar go out of his shop like that.

You could have darn near purchased a new guitar in the color you wanted for 1900.00. I think we've all been there getting subpar work from people and it sucks, I feel your your situation.
 
The guitar is very sentimental to me. I will never sell it. I never said the words “relic” or “aged” to him. I specifically told him I wanted her to look and play the best she could.

I’m all fairness, he got the look right. I specifically wanted it to look similar to the Peter Frampton LPC minus the middle pickup. Also pointed directly to Brian Robertson’s LPC minus the pickgaurd. He got the look right. It’s the quality of work this is way, way off the mark.
 

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