So I guess everyone drenches their sound in delay now?

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Erock said:
It's definitely extra greeze. I didn't use delay or verb for years, then watched too many Lukather vids, lol. Love the guy, but can't/don't play anything like him. Unfortunately I liked how it sounded though. I like one slap now, very low mixed. It gives it a bigger room effect. I went through a ton of delay and reverb pedals though, just to find something that worked in front, without being too much for what I wanted. Most pedals, it's off, or yuck. I'm sure there are more, but Strymon and Eventide are the only pedals that I've used that work for my purpose.
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I was in a similar boat; never used any delay or reverb for the longest time. Live I just ran everything dry & recording I'd usually add just enough in post to not make it sound ridiculously dry. I got a Timeline & BlueSky last year and have really been enjoying them, especially in the loop of my mark III and mark V. I still don't saturate the hell out of everything, but I definitely find myself wishing I'd tried these a few years ago.
 
I tried the carbon copy a few years ago due to an epic hyped up TGP thread.

It lasted and I'm not joking 35 minutes.
Packed it up, called AMS for an RA and out the door it went
 
I only use it in the DAW when Clocked to tempo and as an aux/return tasetfully of course

Live I just use a tiny bit of room.
 
VonBonfire said:
Especially young dudes and especially young sound dudes but even some of these old heads do it. I ask for no delay in the monitor but I can still hear the mains and it's like I'm shouting down into a cave. Then I go to a jam last night and dude's rig was like plugging my guitar into an amp in a swimming pool down in a canyon. It's like some dude who's gotta slather the mayo on his sandwich just thick pretty much ruining the sammich. Anyone else seeing this? Excess delay sucks ass.
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Delay in a vocalist's monitor ( or any effects, especially compression) is a bad idea. And people way over use delay and reverb on vocals and use compression when they lack a basic understanding of what compression is or does and how to use it properly. A lot of people use it and they don't know why they use it other than someone told them they should.
 
I love delay!

But…I use a Memory Lane Jr in the loop but treat it like it’s in front of the amp.

As in, short time and low in the mix.
But it’s there…
 
70 Mach 1 said:
I tried the carbon copy a few years ago due to an epic hyped up TGP thread.

It lasted and I'm not joking 35 minutes.
Packed it up, called AMS for an RA and out the door it went
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Yeah mine was noisy if I remember. I talked to Keeley and ended up getting a Mag Echo, which he mentioned is similar. Great pedal and use it for gigs. It's on all the time and set low so just sort of adds ambiance.
 
I have recently realized after chasing tone for a while that most of the tone is in the FX. The chorus seems to be my secret sauce being an 80s metal player. A little Chorus, Delay and Reverb level the playing field of tone for any amp too me.. give me that and I can make any amp sound good.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Delay in a vocalist's monitor ( or any effects, especially compression) is a bad idea. And people way over use delay and reverb on vocals and use compression when they lack a basic understanding of what compression is or does and how to use it properly. A lot of people use it and they don't know why they use it other than someone told them they should.
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It seems like guitar players make the worst sound guys. The last band I started worked more often than I really wanted to for about 8 years or so. I bought all the PA gear and almost always mixed from the stage, which kinda sucks, but after many people telling me it sounded better when I mixed than it did when I paid someone else to mix I just resigned myself to doing it. After I got too busy and sick of the work and quit I still whored myself out as a SE to local bands for awhile. I made more money doing that really. I had a great rig and I miss it. I was right on the cusp of everything going digital. I had already upgraded to powered speakers ( Yamaha DSR-12s for FOH and front fills, two Yorkville LS801Ps coupled for pants shitting low end and a combination of Alto TS-12s and Yamaha DBR 10s for wedges- before switching to IEMs), but I never got to the point of using a digital board. I had a pair of Allen and Heath Mix Wiz 16s and a couple racks of outboard gear. Big ass stage snake for sends and returns. So half old school. To me the most important and hardest concept to grasp was EQ. So many guys don't take the time to figure it out past the "No feedback" point and you can tell. Of course most bar drunks could give a shit less, but any time I go see a band it's the first thing I notice.
 
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