So this positive grid desktop bias program..

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Been listening to a few demos on youtube.. priced at under 200$ for the pro version that allows you to match your own amp, thing sounds really good! I have heard it head to head against an axe FXII and preferred it and the matching feature seems to be how the Kemper works. Any of you have experience with it matching your amp? Is it reasonably close? Sounds as close as the Kemper to me on the demos I have seen.
 
Yep it sounds great.
I have the cheapest version because i don't need the match function. I think it's useless, you will find a lot of amp matched by people on the cloud.
I regret having not many more microphones (just 2) and cabs.
Not sure that you can bypass the cab/mic with the last update. :(
 
I can't seem to find the specs on the microphones, how many do you get with the program?
 
2 Mics. Cheap pricks. I have the hundo dollar version. But being able to name your amps is worth the $100. I get a good chuckle out of it.

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lol 2 mics??! How do you get more mics? Do they do the "expansion" pack thing? Love the name of that amp btw. At the very least, at least they gave you a 57.
 
That's all you get sonn. I looked on their site, watched a couple vids. From what I see there's only 2.

Here are the options

https://store.positivegrid.com/

If you don't give a shit about FX, the $99 one will suit you fine. I just use external plugins for any delay or reverb or whatever.
 
Try Scuffham S -Gear, blows that Bias piece of shit away.
 
BrokenFusion":2ewep9o2 said:
Try Scuffamm S -Gear, blows that Bias piece of shit away.
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What is this Scuffamm S -Gear you speak of? I can't seem to find anything about this.
 
BrokenFusion":34e6spy7 said:
Try Scuffham S -Gear, blows that Bias piece of shit away.
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?? The presets of the s-gear were definitely better, but I was able to get the same out of bias/jamup with some tweaking. Mono though(wtf positive grid?), not sure if that's fixed in Bias FX. The positive grid stuff definitely won me on the metal tones though. Both great programs, but I for sure wouldn't go as far as to say "blows that piece of shit out of the water" about either, lol
 
Bias, to me is as good as anything else out there. It's just software. What I had trouble with, with Bias is this annoying low freq hum I was getting out of the program no matter what. I used an EQ plugin to lower a particular frequency and it's gone.

I also have a hard time getting use to the shitty Rockit 5 Monitors I have. I don't know if it's the monitors, or just me, but going from a 2x12 recto cab to using the studio monitors makes my ears hurts after a while. The monitors after about an hour just sound shitty. I don't know if it's that I'm just not use to them, or the transition from hearing a real cab to using monitors is just weird for me.
 
billsbigego":at0d8ig0 said:
Bias, to me is as good as anything else out there. It's just software. What I had trouble with, with Bias is this annoying low freq hum I was getting out of the program no matter what. I used an EQ plugin to lower a particular frequency and it's gone.

I also have a hard time getting use to the shitty Rockit 5 Monitors I have. I don't know if it's the monitors, or just me, but going from a 2x12 recto cab to using the studio monitors makes my ears hurts after a while. The monitors after about an hour just sound shitty. I don't know if it's that I'm just not use to them, or the transition from hearing a real cab to using monitors is just weird for me.
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I think studio monitors are generally used to try to get an accurate sense of the mix and space you have between instruments. The goal is not to sound "great" but to sound clear and detailed. Generally, those Rockits are a bit heavy in the bass I found when i was comparing. I have Yamaha entry level monitors and they are much more evenly EQ'd. That said, I also can get tired of my tone coming through the monitors after a while. This is why a lot of people track and do their mixes on the monitors but then go listen to the recording in their car. Something about putting it through a stereo system or your earphones after you have cut it to a track makes it sound fuller and more like one piece vs multiple layers. So in short, I wouldn't bother listening to your amp through your monitors. I just hook in some headphones into my audio interface so I can hear what is coming off the mic.
 
Kapo_Polenton":jc4vloy1 said:
billsbigego":jc4vloy1 said:
Bias, to me is as good as anything else out there. It's just software. What I had trouble with, with Bias is this annoying low freq hum I was getting out of the program no matter what. I used an EQ plugin to lower a particular frequency and it's gone.

I also have a hard time getting use to the shitty Rockit 5 Monitors I have. I don't know if it's the monitors, or just me, but going from a 2x12 recto cab to using the studio monitors makes my ears hurts after a while. The monitors after about an hour just sound shitty. I don't know if it's that I'm just not use to them, or the transition from hearing a real cab to using monitors is just weird for me.
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I think studio monitors are generally used to try to get an accurate sense of the mix and space you have between instruments. The goal is not to sound "great" but to sound clear and detailed. Generally, those Rockits are a bit heavy in the bass I found when i was comparing. I have Yamaha entry level monitors and they are much more evenly EQ'd. That said, I also can get tired of my tone coming through the monitors after a while. This is why a lot of people track and do their mixes on the monitors but then go listen to the recording in their car. Something about putting it through a stereo system or your earphones after you have cut it to a track makes it sound fuller and more like one piece vs multiple layers. So in short, I wouldn't bother listening to your amp through your monitors. I just hook in some headphones into my audio interface so I can hear what is coming off the mic.
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Yeah that shit drives me nuts. I would get what I would think was a good recording. Listen with some iphone headphones, yep, good.... then out in the car, boom boom boom, back to remix / remaster. My ears get very tired very quick with the monitor speakers. Maybe because they are pointing almost directly at my ears, where as the 2x12 is on the floor.
 
Bias is serviceable at best. It blows my mind how much hype something so mediocre gets on the net. It absolutely can be used to produce pro quality youtube clips but so can a POD2 or Rockman. The cab modeling straight up sucks and the feel is completely non-amp like. I think a lot of people are really easily fooled by EQ matching algorithms into thinking they are getting good amp emulation and the UI is pretty as can be. That said, I could have taken my money and set it on fire and got more entertainment value compared to the other stuff I have at my disposal; never should have bothered.
 
I thought the demo sounded bad out of the box. I did get it to sound much better but it took some tweaking. I'll give it another go but IMO, something should sound good from the jump and shouldn't take much tweaking to improve.
 
Elric":2vbmv09l said:
Bias is serviceable at best. It blows my mind how much hype something so mediocre gets on the net. It absolutely can be used to produce pro quality youtube clips but so can a POD2 or Rockman. The cab modeling straight up sucks and the feel is completely non-amp like. I think a lot of people are really easily fooled by EQ matching algorithms into thinking they are getting good amp emulation and the UI is pretty as can be. That said, I could have taken my money and set it on fire and got more entertainment value compared to the other stuff I have at my disposal; never should have bothered.
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Agreed. I listened on better earphones and i hear the soft low end in the "match" vs the real amp. End of the day i like my own tone better than IR's or plugin amps. I just wish there was an easy way to make my own impulses!
 
I love BIAS, and I've been poking fun at modelers for over a decade now.

I'll be doing some demos in the near future; stay tuned.
 
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