So today I tried a Diezel Herbert MK1 (videos inside)

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Wow! This thing fucking rips! It's super tight, aggressive and the deep / mid cut things do wonders! It's extremely versatile and feels so good to play! I was lucky to go check it for my buddy who couldn't be there. Needless to say I took it home haha I tried it thru a diezel 2x12 OS with g12k 100s and my ESP Eclipse

 
Sounds great, much tighter than I would have thought from other clips. Ive only had the Vh4 and always thought off the Herbert as being more loose/fuzzy. Only thing that I dont like is that type of tone might not cut so well, sounds a bit scooped.
 
Herbert’s sound pretty good and can have a wow factor to them, but try comparing your iic+ to it and see if you’re still impressed with the Herbert. Every time I did that (especially with my no stripe ++ colisuem) I felt the Herbert had nothing to offer and just sounded smooth, cold/clinical and inorganic/not raw comparatively. You’ve already been taken out of the high gain amp matrix with the iic+. There are only a small group of high gain amps that’ll still be impressive in comparison from here on out: Naylor, Wizard, early revision Recto’s, ccv, Blueface, early SLO’s, Megalith Beta, Larry. No need to waste time like I did with the others imo
 
the4thlast1 said:
Only thing that I dont like is that type of tone might not cut so well, sounds a bit scooped.
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Ur right! With the mid cut engaged it's too scooped so I doubt this would work in a band situation!
 
braintheory said:
Herbert’s sound pretty good and can have a wow factor to them, but try comparing your iic+ to it and see if you’re still impressed with the Herbert. Every time I did that (especially with my no stripe ++ colisuem) I felt the Herbert had nothing to offer and just sounded smooth, cold/clinical and inorganic/not raw comparatively. You’ve already been taken out of the high gain amp matrix with the iic+. There are only a small group of high gain amps that’ll still be impressive in comparison from here on out: Naylor, Wizard, early revision Recto’s, ccv, Blueface, early SLO’s, Megalith Beta, Larry. No need to waste time like I did with the others imo
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Yeah man I see what u mean! The mark IV / 2C+ are definitely the best amps I've ever played - they sound so raw / orgasmic / in ur face ! I doubt I will like other amps better. A Wizard would be awesome but these are super rare and expensive here in Europe! One day...!
 
ultimatemetalguitartones said:
Yeah man I see what u mean! The mark IV / 2C+ are definitely the best amps I've ever played - they sound so raw / orgasmic / in ur face ! I doubt I will like other amps better. A Wizard would be awesome but these are super rare and expensive here in Europe! One day...!
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They are among my favorites too. I don’t play my Wizard as much as my other amps, but it does punch still harder than anything else I’ve yet tried and very open/uncompressed, so worth hearing if you can, but it probably won’t dethrone any of your favorites. The Herbert I feel is a “nice” amp, but the iic+ and others I mentioned are like holy grails in high gain amps (to me anyway)
 
They are wonderful studio amplifiers but can be EQ’d in a live situation to combat symbols and bass guitar and sound generally awful if EQ’d that way. They actually sound great if in the right hands for those that understand you have to EQ it differently live than you do in the studio or even in a practice space.

Thanks for sharing!
 
Clips sound great!

I tried an MK1 out around 12 or 13 years ago. Now I am starting to wonder if something was wrong with it or maybe it wasn't properly biased or something. At the time I played it, it sounded fizzy and way too compressed. I really wanted to like it and drove quite a ways to the store to try it out. I took a 30 minute break, cleared my head and went back inside to play it. I tried a 2nd time to like it and didn't. I was pretty disappointed. Ended up getting a Mesa Duel rectifier.

The one I played didn't sound anything like other clips I have heard, including yours.
 
Pro tip:

screw the midcut. Get yourself a killer parametric eq like the empress paraEQ, and cut a similar frequency as the herberts midcut with it instead. So so much better. The midcut Peter says is around 400hz with a Q of 1.4. It sounds much wider than that to me and cuts some high end as well to me. Gotta be a parametric EQ though. It’ll make the midcut sound fake like a fractal :D

I have clips comparing the midcut to the parametric eq in the loop if you are interested.
 
Had an MKI and MKII and neither lasted too long with me. There was nothing tight at all about the two I owned and they were very compressed with very little in the way of dynamics. There was a nice mid grind when dialed in a certain way, but there was still a certain lifeless aspect to the tone. I much prefer many other amps to the Herbert.
 
braintheory said:
Herbert’s sound pretty good and can have a wow factor to them, but try comparing your iic+ to it and see if you’re still impressed with the Herbert. Every time I did that (especially with my no stripe ++ colisuem) I felt the Herbert had nothing to offer and just sounded smooth, cold/clinical and inorganic/not raw comparatively. You’ve already been taken out of the high gain amp matrix with the iic+. There are only a small group of high gain amps that’ll still be impressive in comparison from here on out: Naylor, Wizard, early revision Recto’s, ccv, Blueface, early SLO’s, Megalith Beta, Larry. No need to waste time like I did with the others imo
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