Soldano vs. Diezel

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How similar or different are these amps? Both have tons of gain on tap. Can an SLO be set up to sound like a VH4? What do you fellas think? Which one do you like better??
 
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Similar, but totally different
 
I honestly don't think there is any comparison between the two other than they both have tubes in them...
 
I have a VH4S and an SLO-100R. Only had the SLO for a little while. Very very very different amps. Diezel sounds massive and crushing, but is more laidback and distant. SLO is raw and cutting. Not thin sounding, but not the footprint that the VH4S has. Feel is very different too.
 
For versatility the VH4 wins by a mile.
The SLO overdrive channel is epic tho.
Fx loop sucks on the Soldano and the clean is passable at best. It CAN do decent in between milder gain sounds really well however.
So to recap the SLO really only trumps the Diezel if you favor its overdriven channel. Its definitely a night and day difference between the two. The soldano has way less compression and is a bit thinner sounding UNLESS its been modded for depth. A ton of modern high gain amps have taken the SLO preamp as a platform. Its a more common sound now than when it arrived in the mid 80's.
 
Business":5um9y5lp said:
Great white wine vs great red wine?
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This, totally different. No way to speak about better/worse, just different.

I have owned every Diezel (except the Schmidt) and still own Herbert and Hagen. I also own a SLO 100. Depends on what you are going for, but SLO will NEVER sound like a Diezel. They are voiced differently and Diezel's just have a unique tone.

Love the SLO for what it is, but it is no Diezel :rock:
 
The SLO seems versatile too, but obviously not as much as the Diezel, particularly live. I'm as big a Diezel fan boy as the next guy, but playing lead on the SLO is just unreal to me. Both are fantastic amps.
 
Aside from the fact that they both amplify a guitar's signal, they're incomparable.
 
I think VH4 should be against the avenger,not the SLO...
Avengers lead is the 3rd channel of the VH4...just a bit more dynamic...
 
blackie13":fv6k4pkm said:
I think VH4 should be against the avenger,not the SLO...
Avengers lead is the 3rd channel of the VH4...just a bit more dynamic...
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That is just so not true...



Personally, I like Soldanos more... Had three Diezels. I tried, and I tried again to like them. But no...
 
Diezel Herbert....Thick, modern, dark, compressed, easy to play, sound great at home and low volumes. Can get lost in the mix if you're not careful. Versatile. I haven't spent enough time with the VH4 to comment on it.

Soldano SLO......LOUD. 80's vibe. Not very versatile but a decent clean. Will cut through any mix. A lead tone that the Herbert can't touch. Not as thick or modern sounding doing rhythm though. Perfect amp for Lynch or Demartini playing. Has stood the test of time and value remains high on them.
 
Diezel is more modern , different response ton of low end.

The Soldano to me has always kinda been the missing link amp, its not Classic Hi gain like a Marshall and not voiced modern enough like a Recto , Engl
It sits just in the middle IMO

Its kinda the last stargate before you hit warp speed
 
Ive owned a Herbert, it was a great amp but the SLO is my favorite!!
 
cardinal":24aek4jk said:
The SLO seems versatile too, but obviously not as much as the Diezel, particularly live.
I'm as big a Diezel fan boy as the next guy, but playing lead on the SLO is just unreal to me. Both are fantastic amps.
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Agreed.

The thing for me, and what drew me to Diezel in the first place, is Diezel has midi capability built right in, 2nd MV for lead boost, and is multiple channel.
For live use that makes it HUGELY versatile in my book

That said, I also agree that the SLO is a true beast when it comes to specific rhythm and lead tones. My SLO has Gold Lion KT77's in it and it simply crushes with them in there.
I totally love the sound and for many uses it is perfect. However for live use, I enjoy the midi capability and multiple channels of the Diezel's.

My Herbert has been my #1 for a while now. Gives me everything I need, never lost in the mix, midi switchable, 2nd MV, good parallel loop, reliable. Of course, YMMV :thumbsup:
 
Rezamatix":1l8590xb said:
I have had them both. The Soldano is like...1 sound. (which is pretty cool) the Diezel (VH4) has 4 sounds...all of them better than the 1 Soldano sound. :)
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This is so wrong. :doh: :doh:

The Slo has been on every thing from hairbands to country to blues to metal albums.Clapton to Moore to Lynch, blah, blah, blah. It is much more than one sound. Not sure what albums Diezal has been on? ;)

I had 3 Diezels: VH4s, Vh4 and Herbert. I HAVE 3 SLOs. :D

All great amps, really just a matter of taste. Peter and Mike are great guys as well.

I'd love to have the space for my old Diezels, Bogners and Boogies again - I'd still have them if I did.

Buy an Axe FX and have them all ;) , :lol: :LOL:
 
It is fairly well documented that SRV was on the way to a modified SLO before his death. Even Knopfler has played the SLO.

http://www.thefret.net/showthread.php/15656-SRV-Soldano-Amplifiers-Connection

Some cool reading above.

Stevie's version may be the perfect SLO. A more woody Fender scooped clean with the SLO high gain channel sounds pretty cool.

Anyway....

To the OP, I don't think these two amps are alike. It is like a Mesa Mark series or Mesa Recto series question.
 
This thread shouldn't end up being about which is better, as this is a very strong and very intense divisiveness. The two amps could not be more different, and therefore, any cock slinging about which is better is only going to result in two firmly entrenched camps saying theirs is better than the others'.

The OP was are they comparable or similar.

The answer is not a fucking chance :student:
 
Ventura":2kuuuj50 said:
This thread shouldn't end up being about which is better, as this is a very strong and very intense divisiveness. The two amps could not be more different, and therefore, any cock slinging about which is better is only going to result in two firmly entrenched camps saying theirs is better than the others'.

The OP was are they comparable or similar.

The answer is not a fucking chance :student:
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If you're playing Gary Moore leads the SLO is better. If you're playing KSE or Tool then the Diezel is better. :D
 
danyeo":1n81di88 said:
Ventura":1n81di88 said:
This thread shouldn't end up being about which is better, as this is a very strong and very intense divisiveness. The two amps could not be more different, and therefore, any cock slinging about which is better is only going to result in two firmly entrenched camps saying theirs is better than the others'.

The OP was are they comparable or similar.

The answer is not a fucking chance :student:
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If you're playing Gary Moore leads the SLO is better. If you're playing KSE or Tool then the Diezel is better. :D
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This.

All subjective and taste.

Which one does VH better? That's all that really matters :lol: :LOL:
 
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