Suhr won a trademark case against Fender

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Marshall Law":dudjbgxf said:
Jakem":dudjbgxf said:
Fender shape trademark on Body shapes
I just received the call......We won !!!
The body shapes are generic and free to use.
This is a historical Federal citable case and thanks to everyone who participated
We can all take a deep breath now.

Congrats, Suhr!

your right, because every body knows that those bodies weren't a fender original design :confused:

I don't think that anyone is arguing against that. Fender legally defended their headstock trademark by suing anyone who came close to copying it. They didn't do the same with the strat body style. That means that they abandoned it. Don't forget, a trademark indicates a symbol of the manufacturer. If Fender hasn't been the only one producing that body shape, it is no longer their symbol!
 
mysticaxe":30mizf00 said:
Marshall Law":30mizf00 said:
Jakem":30mizf00 said:
Fender shape trademark on Body shapes
I just received the call......We won !!!
The body shapes are generic and free to use.
This is a historical Federal citable case and thanks to everyone who participated
We can all take a deep breath now.

Congrats, Suhr!

your right, because every body knows that those bodies weren't a fender original design :confused:

I don't think that anyone is arguing against that. Fender legally defended their headstock trademark by suing anyone who came close to copying it. They didn't do the same with the strat body style. That means that they abandoned it. Don't forget, a trademark indicates a symbol of the manufacturer. If Fender hasn't been the only one producing that body shape, it is no longer their symbol!
I'm sure if you had come up with that body design, you would be just as understanding :D
 
Marshall Law":384xly0b said:
mysticaxe":384xly0b said:
I don't think that anyone is arguing against that. Fender legally defended their headstock trademark by suing anyone who came close to copying it. They didn't do the same with the strat body style. That means that they abandoned it. Don't forget, a trademark indicates a symbol of the manufacturer. If Fender hasn't been the only one producing that body shape, it is no longer their symbol!
I'm sure if you had come up with that body design, you would be just as understanding :D

If I had made as much money off of that body design as Fender has, I might be... or I would have hired better lawyers to defend the design!!! ;)
 
Nobody is denying Fender came up with the body shape designs. The issue here is that they never applied for a trademark for these designs until 2003 - some 50 years after these designs were introduced to the marketplace. Here is the press release from music trade magazines that is now making the rounds:

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FMIC Trademark Applications Denied

The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board of the United States Patent and Trademark Office reached a decision on March 25, regarding a body-shape appeal involving Fender Musical Instruments vs.Stuart Spector Designs, U.S. Music Corporation, ESP Guitars, Sadowsky Guitars, Lakland Musical Instruments, Peavey Electronics, Warmoth Guitar Products, Schecter Guitar Research, Michael Tobias, and others.

The Board stated that, "Fender refers to the ‘iconic’ status of these [instrument] outlines in American popular culture; however, we must resolve a narrow issue: Do consumers associate these two-dimensional outlines, depicted in the drawings, as indicators of source? ...We conclude that applicant [Fender] has not established acquired distinctiveness such that these two-dimensional outlines of guitar bodies, standing alone, serve to indicate source."

After five years of hard-fought litigation, which included over twenty thousand pages of evidence demonstrating countless companies who have manufactured, marketed and sold guitars that use the body shapes that Fender sought to trademark, the TTAB concluded, "The evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that these configurations are so common in the industry that they cannot identify source. In fact, in the case of the [Stratocaster] body outline, this configuration is so common that it is depicted as a generic electric guitar in a dictionary."

The entire decision can be read at:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno= ... PP&eno=246
 
Ed Yoon":2o3cbo1f said:
Nobody is denying Fender came up with the body shape designs. The issue here is that they never applied for a trademark for these designs until 2003 - some 50 years after these designs were introduced to the marketplace. Here is the press release from music trade magazines that is now making the rounds:

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FMIC Trademark Applications Denied

The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board of the United States Patent and Trademark Office reached a decision on March 25, regarding a body-shape appeal involving Fender Musical Instruments vs.Stuart Spector Designs, U.S. Music Corporation, ESP Guitars, Sadowsky Guitars, Lakland Musical Instruments, Peavey Electronics, Warmoth Guitar Products, Schecter Guitar Research, Michael Tobias, and others.

The Board stated that, "Fender refers to the ‘iconic’ status of these [instrument] outlines in American popular culture; however, we must resolve a narrow issue: Do consumers associate these two-dimensional outlines, depicted in the drawings, as indicators of source? ...We conclude that applicant [Fender] has not established acquired distinctiveness such that these two-dimensional outlines of guitar bodies, standing alone, serve to indicate source."

After five years of hard-fought litigation, which included over twenty thousand pages of evidence demonstrating countless companies who have manufactured, marketed and sold guitars that use the body shapes that Fender sought to trademark, the TTAB concluded, "The evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that these configurations are so common in the industry that they cannot identify source. In fact, in the case of the [Stratocaster] body outline, this configuration is so common that it is depicted as a generic electric guitar in a dictionary."

The entire decision can be read at:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno= ... PP&eno=246.


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