T&N - Kiss Of Death and Alone Again

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Can't believe i'm saying it, Don "Rocken" Dokken sounds way better.
 
I like "Alone Again" better than "Kiss of Death" but both still can't touch the originals in my opinion.

Sebastian Bach did a good job but Ripper Owens is singing like a robot. I love Ripper's voice but doesn't fit the "love" stuff. :)

I absolutely hate George Lynch changing the solos. Those solos are so legendary that I can sing them in my sleep and they are like a vocal. His tone has alot more low end in it as well and not as defined. I just loved his tone in the 80's.

I've come to the conclusion that I don't like the production stuff bands are doing now. Vocals way up front and instruments hidden as well as everything distorting because it is being pushed. The latest Foo Fighters record is a benchmark people should strive for when capturing a band. It is very listenable and sounds outstanding.
 
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I like "Alone Again" better than "Kiss of Death" but both still can't touch the originals in my opinion.

Sebastian Bach did a good job but Ripper Owens is singing like a robot. I love Ripper's voice but doesn't fit the "love" stuff. :)

I absolutely hate George Lynch changing the solos. Those solos are so legendary that I can sing them in my sleep and they are like a vocal. His tone has alot more low end in it as well and not as defined. I just loved his tone in the 80's.

I've come to the conclusion that I don't like the production stuff bands are doing now. Vocals way up front and instruments hidden as well as everything distorting because it is being pushed. The latest Foo Fighters record is a benchmark people should strive for when capturing a band. It is very listenable and sounds outstanding.
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I didn't even know that was George playing.

Wow.
 
Wonder what amps George is using...I love these tracks but not a fan of these versions or the tone at all.
 
I am interested in hearing the originals from this disc. I do not know why they did Dokken cover tunes anyways!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
:(

Where's Max Norman when you need him? They needed him.
 
Wtf was that. I love ripper but the vocals sounded like "fake" ? Buried distant like? They should have been up further.

Why tell me why these retards keep doing shit over n over n over lynch blows anymore n I don't really give a fuck. He was the shit in dokken. Saw him live few yrs ago it blew! Just like all these retarded versions of La guns dokken skid row guns n roses queensryche etc There is a formula for these bands that works n works well apart from it. Fail !!!
 
I was waiting for these to come out for awhile, and I can't say I like them so far.. :thumbsdown:
 
Wow...I never thought I'd see the day where I said "I wish Sebastian sang 'Alone Again' with as much balls as Don Dokken did"
 
Lynch is done for the most part... just reckless abandon on his solos for the most part. Ripper Owens is $hit in everything except a Priest cover band. Can't stand his stuff with Yngwie. What the hell Malmsteen was thinking is beyond me. Should have just recycled all those Swedes he used to use. Bach did a good job on Alone Again I thought but it totally sounds like they mailed him the completed tune and he did the voice over. He sits way over top. Who the hell is doing these mixes??? The guitars also don't cut. Maybe Lynch does have top of the line equipment now but there is no question he sounded better with the rockmans, Randall solid state stuff, and his boosted Plexis. His tone used to cut, now it is just low mid heavy.
 
Kiss of Death is one on my favourite tunes from that era of music. This version is far from that version...in a bad way.
 
I am not so sure if these posted versions, are the same ones that I heard a few weeks ago when listening to the album.

I am hoping that these are bootlegged and/or something about being posted on YouTube, has added the odd sound to KOD, etc. If this is the final product that T+N releases, they should have left them alone, and released what they had a few weeks ago. There might actually be hope for the final releases........but if this is it, it is an example of fucking with something too much when you essentially had it right to begin with.
 
Huge Lynch Fan don't know why he is constantly screwing with classic stuff though .He did it to Lynch mob tunes on REevouloution drop tuning everything.
He is all across the map literally I heard the Slow groove lynch mob tune and thought that wow George is back but now i am not so sure.

Kapo ,we could probably make a thread alone about the # of good talented musicians Yngwie has fired .
I mean he fired the Johannson brothers ....seriously who the hell fires guys from Sweden orchestra because they are not good enough??..

In George's defense The new Dokken IMO brings a large plate of suck .Jon Levin is amazing but he cannot save Don bad flat vocals and shitty psychedellic beatles style vocal melodies
Burning Empires would have been a great tune 10 years ago when Dokken could sing . and had some fire ..Its apparently the last Dokken album so thats some consulation .I guess
 
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