Taking a chance on a 1973 marshall greyback loaded cab...

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Any advice would be welcomed... is there a disadvantage to buying these cabs with the "greyback" speakers? I just want a great sound from a classic marshall cab, without breaking the bank. What should I look for specifically to make sure they are original speakers and that they havent been reconed? Also is $900-1000 a good asking price for this cab in decent shape? Any help would be appreciated.
 
The magnet cover color makes no difference. You could get green, grey, black or cream. The 75hz cones are the lead cones and the 55hz are the bass cones.

$1000 is way too much for any '70's cab. There were two early '70's cabs listed here that finally sold in the $400-$500 range, and I was able to find three last year within that same price range.
 
damn... thanks for the heads up. I would have hated to be taken for that much money!
 
Just keep checking your local craigslist. There are plenty of crack smokers out there, but you can find nice cabs priced right if you are patient.
 
IF it's in ABSOLUTE MINT CONDITION, then it's worth $900-$1000
'73 cabs aren't usually that common and cheap like '76+ cabs
 
His has a couple knicks in the tolex probably, and has no tears or nasty stains on the grill cloth. But are these 73 and before cabinets "the ones" to get? What is your guys opinions on the prices for these cabinets?
 
The "73 and before" thing is for the 1959 superleads because of the circuit board I would say.

Jim Seaval would know for sure, but I think late '71 through '79 are basically the same cab. There was a change over to plastic corners, and no gold piping, but that is about it.

In the last year I have had a '79, two '73s, a '74, and a '76. If there were major differences, I can't tell you what they were.
 
Nice! Any chance you would pass one of those along to me for $500?
 
The only ones I have left are the '79 and one '73. The rest are gone...

The '73 is on my bench waiting to be recovered.

The other '73 I recovered and it went to a friend.

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I wanted to buy this one because of the bass cones, but it is a consignment deal, and the owner is still on his vintage high. :lol: :LOL:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/msg/2141292822.html
 
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The magnet cover color makes no difference. You could get green, grey, black or cream. The 75hz cones are the lead cones and the 55hz are the bass cones.

$1000 is way too much for any '70's cab. There were two early '70's cabs listed here that finally sold in the $400-$500 range, and I was able to find three last year within that same price range.
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I disagree, my '72 cabs both have stock speakers with the stock pulsonic cones, those speakers per scumback jim are worth 250-350 *each*. I have a '76 blackback cab, my '72s sound better to my ear, and both cabs smoke the JCM 800/900 cabinets I have.

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I disagree, my '72 cabs both have stock speakers with the stock pulsonic cones, those speakers per scumback jim are worth 250-350 *each*. I have a '76 blackback cab, my '72s sound better to my ear, and both cabs smoke the JCM 800/900 cabinets I have.

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I have to agree with this 100%. I have a 71 cab with the Pulsonic cones, and it smokes the 76 cab I have with the Blackback 55Hz "H" speakers. Huge difference to my ear, and if anyone ever see's a mid 70's Marshall cab with the original speakers in the $400.00-$500.00 range....hit me up....Ill buy it every time! Steve
 
Maybe is was late '72, you would have to talk to Jim about when the speaker cone changeover...

Either way, I think you have to go '60's cab to break $1,000. You don't have to agree with me, but mid '70's cabs are out there, and can be had cheap.
 
They're my favorite cabs. G12M, G1H, 75hz , 55hz, any of them. Yes, the pre rolas do sound better for many things, but for harder rock, the grey/cream/blackback speakers to me sound tighter than the pre rolas I've had and have, and to my ears just sound better than any other speaker I've tried.

I do feel that 1000.00 is a bit much though, and it's only high because it's closer in years to the "holy grail" cabs that are a few years before it. If it's got 55hz G12H-30's, it's probably worth a bit more than a G12M cab which is more common.

That cab, and speakers are the same as the later 70's with the same speakers. If you're getting it to play through, for the tone, I'd try to find a mid-late 70's, it's the same, and they're usually cheaper.
 
I can only report what I find...

There was a '76 cab listed here for $500 with H30s that went unsold for over a month, and that seller was willing to ship.

My craigslist has this cab that is still unsold.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/msg/2141292822.html

Ebay

1971 no bids @ $1400

https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1971-Marsha ... 1e60a11dc3

1968 unloaded no bids @ $499 (I hope someone snagged this for $500!)

https://cgi.ebay.com/Original-68-Marshal ... 4cf41654f8

1972 unloaded no bids @ $700 (cab also listed local for $600)

https://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Marshall-4x12- ... 27b7983b81

1972 A w/ pre rolas no bids @ $1400

https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1972-Marsha ... 2c59c15680

Late '70's with replaced speakers no bids @ $520

https://cgi.ebay.com/marshall-cab-cabine ... 230ccd2f7b

I am not saying you can get good money for the right cab, but the market is soft right now, and there are deals to be had.
 
No offense taken here at all.

All I was trying to do was point out that the OP could get a better deal with some sharp shopping.

I only kept the '79 A and '73 B cabs at the moment, but I wont pass on another B cab with H30s.

The 55hz are my favorite Celestions.
 
This may be a stupid question, but how are the 1960BHW re-issue cabinets with the 55hz Heritage G12H30's, in comparison to the original real deal? I haven't been able to find one locally.
 
Pulsonic cones were used up until mid to late 73. They'll have a "3" on the cone. But you have to check the cones for the 3 code, otherwise they're likely RIC (late 73-late 74), or 1777 or 444 cones from late 74 till now.

I did this extensive Greenback ID thread on the TGP that shows all this stuff. Here's the link:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... adid=67646

As a general rule the speakers up till late 73 were the same cones/build as the late 60's. But you must have original cones to make them sound right, and be worth more money.

I recently bought a late 67 slant for $1700 including the shipping. It came with G12M 20w pre rola 102 003 cones. Yes, it is insane sounding.

If the cab you're after has the 102 3, or 3 cones in it Chad, it is worth $1000 if it's in good shape, as the speakers alone sell for $250-350 (assuming they're original, no voice coil rub or other issues).

Late 60's cabs cost a bit more....still.
 
Greatful for that useful information Jim... and I will definatly look into it now!
 
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