Tell me about the 6505+

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I'm profiling one right now and it's fighting me hard....

Is thing supposed to be this stiff? :lol: :LOL: ...I know, that's what she said....

This amp doesn't seem t have a sweet spot....Everything is just kinda there, I don't know what to make of it...
 
6505+ benefits GREATLY from a front end clean boost. That being said, I never ever found it stiff. If anything, waaaay too bass heavy.
 
I modded the bias circuit in mine so I could bias it hotter. Swapped one resistor. Greatly improved the tone.
 
My brother has one and it's more on the fizzy side, and the bass knob can get really out of control really quickly. Otherwise, it's a decent little amp at a cheap price.
 
Hmm. I run in with a Cantrell wah and delay in the loop and it's killer.
Strat, Suhr Aldrich.

Not stiff, but stout. Big, ballsy. Pummeling.
 
You're gonna laugh, but try a Metal Zone as a clean boost. It sounds awesome. I just made a profile of an old 5150 + Keeley-modded MT2 and I can't stop playing that damn thing.
 
Don't listen to these guys ....Its not a fizzy amp . If you are playing at low volumes maybe yeah but its not meant to be a bedroom amp . Turn it up mofos, its actually one of the best sounding metal amps ever made. I've owned Bogner, Diezel, Friedman, ENGL etc etc... There are a few simple things to keep in mind to dial it in best but it's not rocket science.
 
the4thlast1":26pxx5cj said:
Don't listen to these guys ....Its not a fizzy amp . If you are playing at low volumes maybe yeah but its not meant to be a bedroom amp . Turn it up mofos, its actually one of the best sounding metal amps ever made. I've owned Bogner, Diezel, Friedman, ENGL etc etc... There are a few simple things to keep in mind to dial it in best but it's not rocket science.
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Only saw one guy mention that it was on the fuzzy side. Everyone else said they like it.
 
One of the least "stiff" feeling, playing, responding amps out there. Which is why so many guys boost the front with an od pedal to tighten them up for a tighter rhythm sound and feel. Thick, meaty, and juicy.

And as mentioned they sound much better/different turned up. Not a bedroom amp champ. Great, classic metal amp nonetheless.
 
Likely a cold bias from the factory. The preamp gain can sound loose and clouded with bass. Front end boosts are used here to slice through that and liven up the response and pick attack.
 
This is still one of my favorite amps. I found that it benefits more from neutral sounding speakers, like Emi V12s, than it does from something like a boost or EQ.
 
Here's a 6505+. I always liked the tones on this album.

 
All 5150 series amps are fizzy/buzzy. Some of it goes away with volume. A lot of volume. Ed made them to be played loud and that's the only way they sound good. I'd play a gig tomorrow with my old Peavey 5150. And it would kill! I practice with it occasionally. At low volumes. Still a great sound. They are more versatile than people think. And the 5150 II/6505+ head has a great rock tone hidden in the Rhythym channel. Play it with a band and turn the pre gain all the way up. Use the post gain as volume and slowly turn it up. Your welcome. ;)
 
Turn it up and turn your preamp gain DOWN. Too many people record balls out and heavier sounds come from tighter sounding amps and cleaner sounding amps. Makes them bigger. Leave the fizzy sound for Gus G. ( I just find his tone way too fizzy)
 
CP5150":3i6cxptk said:
All 5150 series amps are fizzy/buzzy. Some of it goes away with volume. A lot of volume. Ed made them to be played loud and that's the only way they sound good. I'd play a gig tomorrow with my old Peavey 5150. And it would kill! I practice with it occasionally. At low volumes. Still a great sound. They are more versatile than people think. And the 5150 II/6505+ head has a great rock tone hidden in the Rhythym channel. Play it with a band and turn the pre gain all the way up. Use the post gain as volume and slowly turn it up. Your welcome. ;)
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Like the dude above had said , preamp gain down low thats the key. A lot of people set the gain too high and you get a tone that is a mess. I set my pregain on the lead channel around 3 which is a little above 9:00 ...Then hit it with a tube screamer pedal with level up and the gain all the way down. Shit its one of the best high gain metal tones you can get, tight and clear with a nice saturation and juice. Not fizzy or buzzy at all when set this way. My 6505+ has sent amps that cost three to four times as much packing.

Also I would recommend to the OP if you buy one to look for one that was made in the USA..Newer ones are made in China and may or may not sound as good.
 
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