stephen sawall
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I really like the Royal .... if I was going to get a other Mesa to go with my IV & Tremoverb it would be the Royal.
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richedie
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Kapo_Polenton":2t9kdhlz said:Just go JCM800 and pedals and never look back
Been there, done that, way too loud for today.
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richedie
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stephen sawall":1r0m6fuk said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
stephen sawall
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I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":zznim53z said:stephen sawall":zznim53z said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
Mudder
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Too...much...fucking...talking...
thiswaythatway
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I just like how Rebecca Dirks hold that mic.
Ventura
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Mudder":2qaddfpg said:
squank
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The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":8r9lpsk0 said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":8r9lpsk0 said:stephen sawall":8r9lpsk0 said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
stephen sawall
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I agree ... the extra gain, voicing & better master makes the Royal a better fit for me. My experience with both of these amps is limited & did not try any pedal with either.squank":gpw6inte said:The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":gpw6inte said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":gpw6inte said:stephen sawall":gpw6inte said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
philb
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Yeah, I ended up selling mine because of the lack of gain. I'm not a pedal guy and I def like the Mark tone better. I tried the RA and while it sounded really good, I'll pass on it.squank":2e9crjt2 said:The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":2e9crjt2 said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":2e9crjt2 said:stephen sawall":2e9crjt2 said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
geese_com
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I have a Royal Atlantic and use an EP Booster or Maxon OD808 in front. The RA takes pedals very well IMHO.
AmpliFIRE
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I've owned my RA for a few weeks now and this amp has impressed the hell out of me. The mids are much more in the Marshall camp compared to the ED (daneyo brought over his amp and we compared them). The ED is a bit fatter sounding, which is definitely the 6L6 vs EL34 thing.
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richedie
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As much as I love the RA, it has a bit too much gain tghan I would ever use....even for Megadeth or Metallica tunes we play. Most guys use too much gain anyway. The Electradyne has enough gain for anyone, in my opinion. I may just get the ED and a Splawn Quick Rod. Life is too short to only get one amp at a time! I hated the Mark V, sounded too artificial and fake to me and very, very nasal sounding. The Royal and ED blow it out of the water 10 times over.
thiswaythatway
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squank":42b8g0wm said:The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":42b8g0wm said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":42b8g0wm said:stephen sawall":42b8g0wm said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
Funny, don't most people sell a pedal when it takes over the tone of their amp?
I use the ED with a BB Preamp and set the gain low and level high so guess U'm just using it as a clean boost. But I noticed that on the clean channel you do hear differences in pedals a lot. On the clean channel you have to set the level to match the amp volume and use gain to taste.
thiswaythatway
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richedie":31c1r7ts said:As much as I love the RA, it has a bit too much gain tghan I would ever use....even for Megadeth or Metallica tunes we play. Most guys use too much gain anyway. The Electradyne has enough gain for anyone, in my opinion. I may just get the ED and a Splawn Quick Rod. Life is too short to only get one amp at a time! I hated the Mark V, sounded too artificial and fake to me and very, very nasal sounding. The Royal and ED blow it out of the water 10 times over.
IMHO there's really not much gain on the ED but, to me, it takes pedals really great....then it rips as good as anything. Yes, the Mark V can sound like a nasal thin cradboard box but you have to play with the EQ. Sometimes though with a few Mark V's they've sounded like no matter how I tweaked them. And since owning Mark series amps for 13 years I know how to tweak them.
squank
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Not when you want your amp to sound different. If an amp had the right gain sound, we wouldn't need distortion pedals at all, imo.danyeo":14h1gqiw said:squank":14h1gqiw said:The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":14h1gqiw said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":14h1gqiw said:stephen sawall":14h1gqiw said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
Funny, don't most people sell a pedal when it takes over the tone of their amp?
I've owned several amps that had a cool distortion, but I want several different distortion tones available to me at a gig. My high gain pedals' own distortion tones need to shine through. If I wanted just more of the same, I'd get a clean boost to hit the front end harder and drive the preamp tubes.
Don't get me wrong - the ED sounds great on its own. It just wasn't flexible enough on the clean channel to take dirt pedals well.
rlord1974
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The RA sounds great.
HOWEVER, why the f**k didn't they put dual 'Gains' on the dirty channel, in addition to the dual 'Masters' they included? It would have made the amp so much better and easier to tweak. Very strange decision.
HOWEVER, why the f**k didn't they put dual 'Gains' on the dirty channel, in addition to the dual 'Masters' they included? It would have made the amp so much better and easier to tweak. Very strange decision.
thiswaythatway
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rlord1974":1bqnh2ri said:
Yeah, I don't know why they didn't do that either but whenever I've played with the amp I never found it to be a problem as there's a big difference in the gain, same thing with the Ed.
squank
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I totally agree with you here. It would have added so much flexibility, esp if you are getting all your distortion from your amp.rlord1974":13fptc4v said:
thiswaythatway
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squank":3e29c4a8 said:Not when you want your amp to sound different. If an amp had the right gain sound, we wouldn't need distortion pedals at all, imo.danyeo":3e29c4a8 said:squank":3e29c4a8 said:The concept and layout of these two amps are certainly similar... but the RA gain definitely sounds different than the ED. First, the RA is higher gain and can get more modern sounding. Second, I've heard the RA takes pedals well. I've owned two EDs, and every dirt pedal I tried got lost in the ED tone. I tried a huge variety of pedals, including Timmy, Pure Drive, Plextortion, Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot, etc, and they all sounded like the ED distortion. I was very disappointed, and ended up selling them because of this.stephen sawall":3e29c4a8 said:I like them both / would be happy with either. The voicing of the Royal fits me a little better. I agree they are similar....richedie":3e29c4a8 said:stephen sawall":3e29c4a8 said:
To me the Electra Dyne sounds almost exactly the same, but warmer, thicker and bigger. Use a boost or OD and you can do anything the Royal can do for less money.
Funny, don't most people sell a pedal when it takes over the tone of their amp?
I've owned several amps that had a cool distortion, but I want several different distortion tones available to me at a gig. My high gain pedals' own distortion tones need to shine through. If I wanted just more of the same, I'd get a clean boost to hit the front end harder and drive the preamp tubes.
Don't get me wrong - the ED sounds great on its own. It just wasn't flexible enough on the clean channel to take dirt pedals well.
All I do is set my BB high on the level so I guess I'm getting more from the amp, but that's how I've used pedals with Marshall's in the past. I found an OCD worked well on the clean channel, but I find myself just using the Blue mode unboosted for lower gain stuff, step on the pedal and Blue channel boosted and it's so different. I guess that's what I like, blue and red modes unboosted, then both modes boosted and it's like 4 different types of sounds without touching a know. And I do like the ED and RA more than the Mark V, as long as I can use a pedal to boost them.