The new Wizard leopard pedals hitting the resale block quick

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I have one. Nothing wrong with it. Don't plan to sell it. Not sure if I like it more than my Suhr Koko boost. I've bought and sold many pedals that didn't measure up to my preference for the koko boost.
 
mhenson42":31mn5tdx said:
I have one. Nothing wrong with it. Don't plan to sell it. Not sure if I like it more than my Suhr Koko boost. I've bought and sold many pedals that didn't measure up to my preference for the koko boost.

I need to try a Koko. Seems to get a lot of love!
 
I tried a Koko and didn't like it. I wanted to but didn't.
 
Metlupass2":3bqoncnz said:
I tried a Koko and didn't like it. I wanted to but didn't.

Same for me on the Koko original.
 
Pedals....very tough to have everyone agree on, just too many variations. It's easily the deepest rabbit hole in GAS land. Great time though, with so many great options out there, but you could buy/sell for years and still be only 10% of the way there.
 
MetalHeadMike":3n563cki said:
Metlupass2":3n563cki said:
I tried a Koko and didn't like it. I wanted to but didn't.

Same for me on the Koko original.
I remember feeling similarly and just coming across other boosts that did the job better for me
 
Racerxrated":3mx9fdq8 said:
Pedals....very tough to have everyone agree on, just too many variations. It's easily the deepest rabbit hole in GAS land. Great time though, with so many great options out there, but you could buy/sell for years and still be only 10% of the way there.
Agreed. It depends so much on one’s amp, pickup’s, settings, tolerance for noise, etc. I’ve been through almost 130 of them and have 5 pedals staying for now and 3 rack pq’s, but for metal and hard rock the only 2 of 5 pedals I’d use would be my Klon and Thorpy Heavy Water. I have about 5 more to check out on my radar now including the Wizard Leopard and KSR Eros

In every other category of gear (except tubes) I’ve baiscally tried it all and even the few ones left, I at least already know about them (like Larry), while with pedals there are just so many out there that I always find myself adding a bunch to my radar periodically that I somehow never heard of before. Luckily they’re relatively easy to sell since the vast majority of them aren’t very good imo

I feel I can tell when a pedal is good now, after trying so many, even if the amp is a terrible fit for it, but I always start with my boogie iic+ as the boost platform because I have yet to try any boost that doesn’t sound good with it
 
braintheory":3tbqau6h said:
Racerxrated":3tbqau6h said:
Pedals....very tough to have everyone agree on, just too many variations. It's easily the deepest rabbit hole in GAS land. Great time though, with so many great options out there, but you could buy/sell for years and still be only 10% of the way there.
Agreed. It depends so much on one’s amp, pickup’s, settings, tolerance for noise, etc. I’ve been through almost 130 of them and have 5 pedals staying for now and 3 rack pq’s, but for metal and hard rock the only 2 of 5 pedals I’d use would be my Klon and Thorpy Heavy Water. I have about 5 more to check out on my radar now including the Wizard Leopard and KSR Eros

In every other category of gear (except tubes) I’ve baiscally tried it all and even the few ones left, I at least already know about them (like Larry), while with pedals there are just so many out there that I always find myself adding a bunch to my radar periodically that I somehow never heard of before. Luckily they’re relatively easy to sell since the vast majority of them aren’t very good imo

I feel I can tell when a pedal is good now, after trying so many, even if the amp is a terrible fit for it, but I always start with my boogie iic+ as the boost platform because I have yet to try any boost that doesn’t sound good with it

I agree with the C+; it likes all pedals and all speaker cabs/combinations. It's the only amp I've owned that isn't picky with anything..and that goes with all variations from the SRG to the HRG, HRG ++ and now the Coli. That Thorpy Heavy Water sounds like a great pedal. Definitely on the radar.

One thing you have to do Sam is find a good vintage JMP NMV Marshall...no mods, just au natural....I haven't stopped playing my 72 for the last 3 weeks. Yeah its loud but you have a HiWatt so that shouldn't deter you....lol. Once you find the sweet spot its amazing. Put one or 2 boosts in front, or none..just as you've mentioned before there's something about vintage gear that newer stuff just can't achieve.
:rock:
 
Racerxrated":36q5ct27 said:
braintheory":36q5ct27 said:
Racerxrated":36q5ct27 said:
Pedals....very tough to have everyone agree on, just too many variations. It's easily the deepest rabbit hole in GAS land. Great time though, with so many great options out there, but you could buy/sell for years and still be only 10% of the way there.
Agreed. It depends so much on one’s amp, pickup’s, settings, tolerance for noise, etc. I’ve been through almost 130 of them and have 5 pedals staying for now and 3 rack pq’s, but for metal and hard rock the only 2 of 5 pedals I’d use would be my Klon and Thorpy Heavy Water. I have about 5 more to check out on my radar now including the Wizard Leopard and KSR Eros

In every other category of gear (except tubes) I’ve baiscally tried it all and even the few ones left, I at least already know about them (like Larry), while with pedals there are just so many out there that I always find myself adding a bunch to my radar periodically that I somehow never heard of before. Luckily they’re relatively easy to sell since the vast majority of them aren’t very good imo

I feel I can tell when a pedal is good now, after trying so many, even if the amp is a terrible fit for it, but I always start with my boogie iic+ as the boost platform because I have yet to try any boost that doesn’t sound good with it

I agree with the C+; it likes all pedals and all speaker cabs/combinations. It's the only amp I've owned that isn't picky with anything..and that goes with all variations from the SRG to the HRG, HRG ++ and now the Coli. That Thorpy Heavy Water sounds like a great pedal. Definitely on the radar.

One thing you have to do Sam is find a good vintage JMP NMV Marshall...no mods, just au natural....I haven't stopped playing my 72 for the last 3 weeks. Yeah its loud but you have a HiWatt so that shouldn't deter you....lol. Once you find the sweet spot its amazing. Put one or 2 boosts in front, or none..just as you've mentioned before there's something about vintage gear that newer stuff just can't achieve.
:rock:
Yeah the c+’s just get along with everything it seems. Definitely look into the heavy water. It’ll complement your boss’s and 1140 nicely. It’s a fairly new pedal, but maybe later some decent used deals will come up. I got mine new since there was a 14 return policy to try it out, but it’s staying

I’ve been wanting an old stock Marshall nvm for a while, I’d just like to find one at the right price, specs, etc. I’m definitely not afraid of volume. The Hiwatt is one of the loudest amps I’ve played as is the blueface. I’m getting also a ‘63 AC30 Copperpanel with top boost this time. The only amps left on my radar are that Marshall, Dover, Schroeder and 2 amps I can’t afford: Dumble and Train Wreck

The Gjika and this Thorpy are imo one of the only exceptions I can think of with newer gear that’s among the very best stuff. I’m hoping the same will be the case with Larry
 
For low-mid heavy amps like the Recto, nothing IMO can beat the KoKo boost. Best on the market. I'm interested in this, but not willing to spend the money just yet.

A boost that I use a lot with my Marshall is the Xotic Super Clean. Also a very fine pedal
 
Koko is my grail boost. The only amp channel that is has not worked with is the Red OD2 on a DSL10HR. On OD1 it is glorious! For some reason the Ultra OD2 flubs out with the Koko. Still want to try some of the Wizard pedals though. I have an OD problem.
 
mhenson42":2f0xiiad said:
Here's a good demo of it..



That sounded better. What amp is he running it through? That little SUHR on top of the other Suhr? I read the notes on YT, guess it's a Suhr Badger 35.

I like the fact that it seems to retain the crunchy factor like a cranked plexi or superlead. I know the Suhr is kind of soft, rounded a bit loose on the low ampwise and this peda tightend and crunched it up judging from the clip.


I like the fact that is seems to still tighten up the low end like a good OD808 pedal. Does it tighten the low end mhenson42?

The Koko didn't really tighten the low end as much, it sounded great but I like that slight tightening of the lows with my Plexi's and Superleads. This pedal might be up my alley yet?
 
harddriver":1rjfao9e said:
mhenson42":1rjfao9e said:
Here's a good demo of it..



That sounded better. What amp is he running it through? That little SUHR on top of the other Suhr? I read the notes on YT, guess it's a Suhr Badger 35.

I like the fact that it seems to retain the crunchy factor like a cranked plexi or superlead. I know the Suhr is kind of soft, rounded a bit loose on the low ampwise and this peda tightend and crunched it up judging from the clip.


I like the fact that is seems to still tighten up the low end like a good OD808 pedal. Does it tighten the low end mhenson42?

The Koko didn't really tighten the low end as much, it sounded great but I like that slight tightening of the lows with my Plexi's and Superleads. This pedal might be up my alley yet?

I've only tried it with my MC2 and my mk2 MTL, which are already super tight (probably why I like the Koko with them). It tightens a little, but it's more subtle on those amps. My only other amps are Fryettes which are equally as tight. I'd like to see what it does to a recto. I'm using with the volume between noon and 3:00, gain below 9:00 and bright about 1:00. It definitely adds a bit more grit/grind and saturation to the MC2. I think I like it better through that amp compared to the MTL.
 
Also a KoKo boost V.1 user here , I dig it! My only gripe is I wish I could sculpt the clean boost a little more. I don't like it on its own. I use it to push OD's that are more mid heavy. When I have a bit more gin from the amp, I love the koko mid side. Great pedal... but there are a lot of great pedals. One that flies under the radar is the little brute drive. Got mine for 80$ used. A real sleeper, built for Marshals.
 
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