thoughts on Orange Rockerverbs

[maddnotez]

Awesome amp. Very organic sounding, best cleans on any amp I've heard that can do metal. Just wasn't my flavor.

I would not be mad at all if I had one but I have to make careful decisions.

 

[slyym]

And go!

Dude you are so spoiled! Quit buying every amp there is and find one, just one amp and learn to appreciate it. I did the same thing for years and years and its just not worth it. They all sound pretty much the same after you have spent some time with them.

 

[orangekick]

The Rockerverb 100 sounded great. It was a really dynamic amp with a lot of great tones in it. I found the clean channel to be really useful. My main complaint would be that it was as loud as some other 100 watt amps. It was one of the easiest amps that I've ever recorded as well.

 

[slyym]

And go!

Dude you are so spoiled! Quit buying every amp there is and find one, just one amp and learn to appreciate it. I did the same thing for years and years and its just not worth it. They all sound pretty much the same after you have spent some time with them.

Whoa whoa whoa!!
I just want to increase my knowledge base here, I want to play them, feel them, love them, hate them, kick them out of bed.
Why are you yelling at me, do you know how many amps I still have to try?!

(Besides its not like I keep them all, I have sold off a tonne of shit this month)

When you have every single top of the line amp in one room how can you play any one of them enough to appreciate it? I have one amp now and I swear it took at least 3 weeks of playing it everyday before I really new it inside and out and how to get the best from it.

 

[slyym]

Oh shit I ain't mad. Don't really post all that much here and just felt like posting I guess. Always see you buying some new badass amp. Maybe I'm jealous. Lol!

 

[Mailman1971]

I just bought one. Should be here this week.
Played one several years back. It was very very good.

 

[K-Roll]

ok here's my experience with the RV100

- it really shines in a 1 guitar band. As long as you're the only player it can get fat.
When you're running two guitars or even if your bass player is EQd poorly - everything else we tried just stomped over it and made it sound thin in the mix. I had it borrowed for two weeks and could not find a tone i would like (to me the cleans sound ok like with most amps, using single coils only, if you go HB, it's the same thing as any other amp i tried)

-the thing is you can either eq this thing to sound fat but will get lost in the band, or nasty thin bright and it will cut through but will just sound like a mess

- it somehow lacks that gain reserve, there's none actually. I had to have my gain maxed (this is the first amp where i had to do this, if anything i love my gains moderately low to get a punchy sound, but i just could not get anything tighter tracking, maybe using a clean boost would help

-it really was great with an aggressive guitar such as bright sounding telecaster or something with active pickups. (we tried several guitars, each time it was mahogany and HBs it just was a flubby rounded tone without articulation )

-it sounded best paired with the orange PPC412 really. Mesa 4x12 sucked balls really it was a nasty bright weird thin sound, orange made thing a lot lot better.. we tried a marshall 1960BV and again, weirdly thin, but a different thin than the mesa. Maybe shrill is the better word

-if you play 7 strings or tune down heavily, stay away, this amp sounds best around drop D -standard E, otherwise, again, flub town

 

[SpiderWars]

I'm just jealous, I'll admit it. But imo all of this is for personal enjoyment so whatever gets you there is all good.

Only played them in music stores and while it sounds good it's just not my flavor. And they're orange.

 

[Elric]

Reza is megadeth7684 reborn.

 

[RockyStar]

I am not nor have I ever been a fan of their amps or cabs. Are they bad? No...but with everything else out there (for me) there are many many better options. I didn't find them dynamic or robust in any way. I found them sterile and harsh at times and just not easy to work with under the fingers like a lot of other amps. Just not my thing. My $.02

 

[Mailman1971]

I know Jim Root has been a user for years. Slipknot and stone sours music is really tight.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

ok here's my experience with the RV100

- it really shines in a 1 guitar band. As long as you're the only player it can get fat.
When you're running two guitars or even if your bass player is EQd poorly - everything else we tried just stomped over it and made it sound thin in the mix. I had it borrowed for two weeks and could not find a tone i would like (to me the cleans sound ok like with most amps, using single coils only, if you go HB, it's the same thing as any other amp i tried)

-the thing is you can either eq this thing to sound fat but will get lost in the band, or nasty thin bright and it will cut through but will just sound like a mess

- it somehow lacks that gain reserve, there's none actually. I had to have my gain maxed (this is the first amp where i had to do this, if anything i love my gains moderately low to get a punchy sound, but i just could not get anything tighter tracking, maybe using a clean boost would help

-it really was great with an aggressive guitar such as bright sounding telecaster or something with active pickups. (we tried several guitars, each time it was mahogany and HBs it just was a flubby rounded tone without articulation )

-it sounded best paired with the orange PPC412 really. Mesa 4x12 sucked balls really it was a nasty bright weird thin sound, orange made thing a lot lot better.. we tried a marshall 1960BV and again, weirdly thin, but a different thin than the mesa. Maybe shrill is the better word

-if you play 7 strings or tune down heavily, stay away, this amp sounds best around drop D -standard E, otherwise, again, flub town

Thanks!! This answered all my questions!!

A lot of this contradicts Jim Root (?)- he plays RVerbs in drop A/B/C, in 2 guitar bands...he gets great tones IMO

 

[blackba]

Its been a while since I owned a RV50 MK1 head, but here was my experience.

Pros: Great gain channel. Range of gain with the knob was awesome, could go from crunch to full on distortion. Cut through great with a Mesa V30 112 cab.

Cons: Clean was compressed and sounded the best with the 112 Classic Lead 80 cab, but that speaker/cab didn't allow the amp to cut through. There was also a bad run of Alpha pots and it was difficult to get Orange to support. Had issues with the reverb and loop as well. Amp inside appeared to be well made though.

Overall, I just preferred my Marshall Silver Jubilee and kept that.

 

[sg guy]

-ROCKER 30-

-only ORANGE amp with out the "fuzz",....

 

[Mailman1971]

Seems like these amps like a clean boost. Sure that could tighten it up a tad to remove any flub. Works on the recto.

 

[GregM]

I just had this discussion with my brother a few weeks ago. I haven't been impressed with the tone on alot of what I've heard. Jim Root seems to extract some magic from the Rockerverb that I haven't heard in video or sound clips of anybody else playing through one. I've got a Root Tele that I'm dying to hear and feel through a Rockerverb but I hate to drop the cash on one and have it sound like most of the Youtube videos. Some of my favorite Root tones were the blended Rockerverb/Uberschall of the last three Stone Sour albums. It's all Rockerverb on stage but through a single 15" Eminance in an iso cab so that's gong to be a bit different than an Orange 412.

On a side note, Jim was using a BE100 for the first part of the last tour but went back to the Rockerverb part way through. I wonder if it was modded or stock.

Reza, I think the best thing to do would be to buy the Rockerverb and sell it to me cheap if you don't like it.

 

[Chris O]

I thought Root was using the Thunderverb??

 

[GregM]

Orange's site still lists Rockerverb MKII but I do see a Thunderverb in a recent Fret 12 video here.

If you skip to a little after 43:00 here they show the two Rockerverbs he had on the road last year.

https://orangeamps.com/portfolio-item/j ... -slipknot/

24 hours from now I'll be on the rail at Klipsche in front of him. Can't wait.

 

[Rayneman]

Disclaimer: I have a Rockerverb 100 MkII for sale.

I've used mine with my Mesa Traditional 4x12 (V30s) and have been very pleased. The thing I've found about this amp is that you can use extreme settings on all EQ and gain and find good tones all over the place. I can clearly see why some guys who need a very precise, utra-tight sound would need a boost or drive pedal. Otherwise, the overdrive tone, IMO, has this kind of "bouncy" feel to it that is more saggy like a Bogner than dry and tight like a VHT UL. This is not to say it doesn't have a ton of drive/gain available. The lowest I go is dropped D, 1/2 step down (so I guess dropped Db) so I can't say anything about lower tunings. Like others have said, I am not sure how this gets to Slipknot territory, unless its simply how it sits in the mix with the other stuff going on. EDIT: After listening to that first Jim Root video above, I think yeah, that's about right. Of course he's tuned lower that I would but that sounds about right for the Rockerverb, if that's what you're after.

 

[Deleted member 22177]

I like your style, Reza. I'm pretty new here and have seen you go through a lot of amps already. I'm getting a Gower Jvm soon. I'm excited!!