Time to Tune down!

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crankyrayhanky":3mxjz8t7 said:
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That's what I'm using - works great.

I really like 432 Hz...great overtones on my acoustic and every key has a sweetness to it - even F# minor and D minor.
 
In an era when most guitar music is tuned down so far you can't tell weather it's a guitar or bass, this doesn't help much. "drop b", "drop a", "drop z", it all sounds like garbage weather it's off a few cents or not. :lol: :LOL:
 
Be interesting to hear 2 full band or orchestra pieces in both tunings. This is interesting...
 
432 Hz does sound a lot better in classical and acoustic instruments as well as vocal arrangements.
 
Bloodrock":1dasn5tr said:
In an era when most guitar music is tuned down so far you can't tell weather it's a guitar or bass, this doesn't help much. "drop b", "drop a", "drop z", it all sounds like garbage weather it's off a few cents or not. :lol: :LOL:
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+1000 :thumbsup: The guitar is a MIDRANGE instrument... It is not a bass!

Pull yo &#%$ing pants up! :lol: :LOL:
 
Not sure what the disdain for massively downtuned music has to do with this thread...432 Hz while detuned slightly from 440 is about a different harmonic balance and overtones that aren't present in 440. Orchestras used it, Bob Marley used it, etc. And talking about the 'beloved' 440 - this pitch is only capable of reaching 8 of the 12 octave overtones of music present in 432.
 
This is obviously proof that tuning down as low as possible sounds better than E standard. :D

For an iPhone app iStrobosoft is a great tuner that supports changing the reference for A.
 
se7en":3c9votd9 said:
Not sure what the disdain for massively downtuned music has to do with this thread...432 Hz while detuned slightly from 440 is about a different harmonic balance and overtones that aren't present in 440. Orchestras used it, Bob Marley used it, etc. And talking about the 'beloved' 440 - this pitch is only capable of reaching 8 of the 12 octave overtones of music present in 432.
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I'd be happy if I could convince the bassist of my band to use a tuner, period. Changing the frequency would probably explode his head.
 
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this thread is gold
 
TrueTone500":2086dzz4 said:
Bloodrock":2086dzz4 said:
In an era when most guitar music is tuned down so far you can't tell weather it's a guitar or bass, this doesn't help much. "drop b", "drop a", "drop z", it all sounds like garbage weather it's off a few cents or not. :lol: :LOL:
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+1000 :thumbsup: The guitar is a MIDRANGE instrument... It is not a bass!

Pull yo &#%$ing pants up! :lol: :LOL:
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Hmmm..sounds like some guys haven't spent any time on experimentation.
 
se7en":3g873cvo said:
Great read. Thanks. Has anyone gone down to 432 Hz here or know of any recordings that are?
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I've always tuned a half step down from 440 as standard A never sounded as organic to me.
EVH also used to tune a half step down from 440. Perhaps it's part of the reason why their music was so enjoyed.

I don't know that I buy into "conspiracy" and all that as I don't buy into the whole conspiracy around every corner about everything mantra. Go read up on the history of standardizing to that frequency and you'll quickly find that it wasn't a Nazi conspiracy.
And not every musical piece you hear in modern music is in 440hz, and there are no frequency police who bang down studio doors on musicians who choose to tune down from 440 as their standard.
So much for conspiracy. :) Much ado about nothing.
 
First of all, talking about downtuned modern music doesn't apply to this. Tuning down to B, A, G, or even a half-step down etc is still based on 440 hz, just like the B, A, and G notes in standard tuning. ;) It's just in a lower octave. Tuning partially down to 432 is not the same, as you could not play any chords that would mesh with a A440 tuned instrument.

Say what you will and many will pass this off as being ridiculous but I honestly thought there was a big difference in the "feel" of the comparison clips. I though the 432 was much more natural and calming. Just my opinion.
 
glassjaw7":2on4a1bu said:
First of all, talking about downtuned modern music doesn't apply to this. Tuning down to B, A, G, or even a half-step down etc is still based on 440 hz, just like the B, A, and G notes in standard tuning. ;) It's just in a lower octave. Tuning partially down to 432 is not the same, as you could not play any chords that would mesh with a A440 tuned instrument.

Say what you will and many will pass this off as being ridiculous but I honestly thought there was a big difference in the "feel" of the comparison clips. I though the 432 was much more natural and calming. Just my opinion.
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Agreed. I haven't had the chance to track anything at 432 yet, but I'm planning on trying it with some of my own tunes. I think that I'll be able to make a better comparison with my own compositions. It's not magic or anything, but there does seem to be a more organic quality to 432 from the examples I've listened to so far.
 
glassjaw7":3hgj57v4 said:
First of all, talking about downtuned modern music doesn't apply to this. Tuning down to B, A, G, or even a half-step down etc is still based on 440 hz, just like the B, A, and G notes in standard tuning. ;) It's just in a lower octave. Tuning partially down to 432 is not the same, as you could not play any chords that would mesh with a A440 tuned instrument.

Say what you will and many will pass this off as being ridiculous but I honestly thought there was a big difference in the "feel" of the comparison clips. I though the 432 was much more natural and calming. Just my opinion.
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Try playing a 440hz tone and let it ring in your ears for a couple minutes. Then do a 432hz.
Do you feel better? That would be an interesting experiment if done on a lot of people to see how they feel after hearing both.
Then we can begin to consider if it really makes our emotions and national state of mental health any different.

As for a different "feel" with a lower standard tuning, yes, I prefer lower than standard, and Ab from 440hz is about 415hz.
Regardless of it's relationship to 440hz, once tuned to a different frequency and the whole band is tuned to that other frequency, then the "standard" has changed.

One could even argue that 432 is based on 440 just 8 cents less. :)
You can relate anything to anything if you really want to.

432hz? Hmmmm... Well, if you add the first number, 4, to the last number, 2, that is 6. The middle number is 3.
WAIT! 6 three times is 666!!! Oh no, it's satan's standard tuning, that's just as bad as the Nazi's...oh nooooooo!
To confirm, 4+3+2 is 9, but turn it upside down and it looks like 6! 6 three times is 666...again!
Ahhhhh.....!!!
And, 3x2 is 6. Add the 4 and it's 10, then, subtract the 4 and it's 6 again!!!!
Eveeeeeel, all around. :)

It's just an agreed upon "standard" cause humans love to have standards. It's simply reference basis, it doesn't mean the hertz police are out to ticket and arrest those who don't use it.

I mean this in fun. I know I'm being a smart A$$ about it, but really my intent is light hearted, I don't mean to pi$$ anyone off. :)
 
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