To Budda or Not To Budda?

[hunter]

I've had a Superdrive 30 combo some time ago and it was cool, just a bit too spongy and not loud enough for what I needed.

Now I ran across a good offer on a 2x12 Superdrive II 80 combo. Just sold the Triamp and I could afford it ... somehow it's a too good offer to let it pass, on the other hand I already have an XTC and a Steavens plus an Axe FX, which is more amp than anyone could need --- what shall I do?

 

[Vrad]

I really love my SD80 II. But its a head and I use a GB-loaded 4x12 with it.

 

[ratter]

The 80 is a good deal less spongy than the 30, and should be loud enough for...anything...

 

[hunter]

Not enough.

GAS is strong, but conscience is too ...

Come on guys, give me some more

 

[skoora]

What about a nice new/used guitar instead? Or a really nice Fender Tweed/blackface style amp to compliment the high gain heads you already have.

 

[hunter]

What about a nice new/used guitar instead? Or a really nice Fender Tweed/blackface style amp to compliment the high gain heads you already have.

Hmmm or a nice Plexi

 

[glassjaw7]

If I already had the nice guitar and amp collection that you have, I would buy a Scumback M75 loaded cab from Jim at Scumback speakers.

 

[hunter]

If I already had the nice guitar and amp collection that you have, I would buy a Scumback M75 loaded cab from Jim at Scumback speakers.

That sounds like a plan indeed!

 

[sixstrings]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

 

[stratotone]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

 

[sixstrings]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

That's ridiculous! LOL! Dude don't be spreading ignorant misinformation like that around. I would have expected better from someone who has been a member of Rig-Talk for 4 freaking years, or someone that I might have otherwise respected.

Having been a dealer for the original Budda amps and the Peavey Buddas, I can tell you that I've seen nothing but improvement. Their amps are actually being manufactured and shipped to dealers now, and quality control seems to have improved. Several of the people I used to deal with when Jeff and Scott were around are still there.

Although I'm looking forward to what Jeff may do in the future, I can only say good things about what Budda has done with Peavey thus far.

By the way, Jeff told me about the V series before the whole Peavey deal went down. The V Series is not a Peavey thing.

 

[hunter]

Having owned the 30 and from what I can see about the 80 (it's not got the tube rectifier, right?) it could really fit my bill, but I'm not keen on a 2x12 combo. On paper it's worth more but in real I would need a head.

Unless someone is willing to come to me to Brussels and swap his Budda head shell with my 2x12 combo that is (or I could come like 100-200KM your way)

 

[PeteLaramee]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

That's ridiculous! LOL! Dude don't be spreading ignorant misinformation like that around. I would have expected better from someone who has been a member of Rig-Talk for 4 freaking years, or someone that I might have otherwise respected.

Having been a dealer for the original Budda amps and the Peavey Buddas, I can tell you that I've seen nothing but improvement. Their amps are actually being manufactured and shipped to dealers now, and quality control seems to have improved. Several of the people I used to deal with when Jeff and Scott were around are still there.

Although I'm looking forward to what Jeff may do in the future, I can only say good things about what Budda has done with Peavey thus far.

By the way, Jeff told me about the V series before the whole Peavey deal went down. The V Series is not a Peavey thing.

So what is the scoop with Budda? Did they sell to Peavey?...form a partnership?...or are Jeff and Scott completely out?

 

[stratotone]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

That's ridiculous! LOL! Dude don't be spreading ignorant misinformation like that around. I would have expected better from someone who has been a member of Rig-Talk for 4 freaking years, or someone that I might have otherwise respected.

Having been a dealer for the original Budda amps and the Peavey Buddas, I can tell you that I've seen nothing but improvement. Their amps are actually being manufactured and shipped to dealers now, and quality control seems to have improved. Several of the people I used to deal with when Jeff and Scott were around are still there.

Although I'm looking forward to what Jeff may do in the future, I can only say good things about what Budda has done with Peavey thus far.

By the way, Jeff told me about the V series before the whole Peavey deal went down. The V Series is not a Peavey thing.

So what is the scoop with Budda? Did they sell to Peavey?...form a partnership?...or are Jeff and Scott completely out?

Jeff left because of quality issues with Peavey. Scot left before Jeff did.

Pete

 

[stratotone]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

That's ridiculous! LOL! Dude don't be spreading ignorant misinformation like that around. I would have expected better from someone who has been a member of Rig-Talk for 4 freaking years, or someone that I might have otherwise respected.

Having been a dealer for the original Budda amps and the Peavey Buddas, I can tell you that I've seen nothing but improvement. Their amps are actually being manufactured and shipped to dealers now, and quality control seems to have improved. Several of the people I used to deal with when Jeff and Scott were around are still there.

Although I'm looking forward to what Jeff may do in the future, I can only say good things about what Budda has done with Peavey thus far.

By the way, Jeff told me about the V series before the whole Peavey deal went down. The V Series is not a Peavey thing.

Let's look at what I posted line by line.

1) Aren't the V series made by Peavey?

Is this misinformation?

2) Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted.

Personally means it's what *I* think. So you're telling me that Peavey bought a boutique company and is building them better? Isn't the reason Jeff left because they were NOT building them to his specs?

3) My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

This isn't misinformation either. My SD18 kills through a 4x12.

Think that maybe the fact you are selling these things just *might* color your perception a little bit? Don't worry about respecting me, I could give three shits what you think.

Pete

 

[sixstrings]

Try the V Series Buddas. They're the same thing except they have 6V6 tubes instead of EL84 so they're not as spongy, have a real nice breakup, and have clearer lows. The 40w combo is plenty loud for gigging.

Aren't the V series made by Peavey? Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted. My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

Pete

That's ridiculous! LOL! Dude don't be spreading ignorant misinformation like that around. I would have expected better from someone who has been a member of Rig-Talk for 4 freaking years, or someone that I might have otherwise respected.

Having been a dealer for the original Budda amps and the Peavey Buddas, I can tell you that I've seen nothing but improvement. Their amps are actually being manufactured and shipped to dealers now, and quality control seems to have improved. Several of the people I used to deal with when Jeff and Scott were around are still there.

Although I'm looking forward to what Jeff may do in the future, I can only say good things about what Budda has done with Peavey thus far.

By the way, Jeff told me about the V series before the whole Peavey deal went down. The V Series is not a Peavey thing.

Let's look at what I posted line by line.

1) Aren't the V series made by Peavey?

Is this misinformation?

2) Personally I'll stick with the old ones that were built the way Jeff and Scot wanted.

Personally means it's what *I* think. So you're telling me that Peavey bought a boutique company and is building them better? Isn't the reason Jeff left because they were NOT building them to his specs?

3) My SD18 is plenty loud for gigging.

This isn't misinformation either. My SD18 kills through a 4x12.

Think that maybe the fact you are selling these things just *might* color your perception a little bit? Don't worry about respecting me, I could give three shits what you think.

Pete

Face it, what you said was ignorant. Last thing we need is someone talking shit about something they know very little about so newbs that visit the site walk away with opinions based on ignorance. I wasn't using the term "Ignorant" not as an insult, but to describe a lack of knowledge. Unless you have some valid first-hand technical reason why Peavey makes inferior amps than Budda, then it's pretty ignorant to go off saying anything of the sort. I also never said the 18 wasn't loud enough for gigging. You misunderstood that I was making issue of your blanket statements.

 

[stratotone]

Unless you have some valid first-hand technical reason why Peavey makes inferior amps than Budda, then it's pretty ignorant to go off saying anything of the sort.

Below is a quote from a post on the gear page. Pretty interesting. Care to comment and cure mine and the original poster's "ignorance"?

Peavey is a large-scale corporation manufacturer. They have a different mentality and mindset than your typical small boutique "cut no corners, make no sacrifices in the name of tone" outfit. If they can get a component that will "work" for a lesser price, they'll do it. "Sound's okay to me" vs "Ultimate Tone" battles, etc. I know Jeff. He'd toss a tranny if wasn't producing what his ears expected, regardless of what its specs read. He'd abandon a shipment of them (seen him do it) if they didn't sound right. Same with tubes. He knows what he wants in his amps. Peavey imports tubes from China in bulk and puts a Peavey badge on them. Their quality control wasn't up to what Jeff wanted. "They sound brittle" wouldn't fly; can't use 'em. That ain't gonna happen at Peavey. They were the right "type" of tube and they were matched - end of discussion. If it meets spec and works - go with it. Jeff ran into problems with them acquiring the wrong type of wood, or wood that hadn't been properly cured and was still "wet", and sounded dull and non-resonant as a result. He's really particular about cabinets. The list went on. The butting of heads became constant and petty. So, sadly, they parted ways.
All that said, apparently Peavey's custom shop is scrambling now. A lot of those guys are apparently gone as well. As such, their response time to endorsing artists has gotten to be fairly long. Their response time to the general public - previously something in which Jeff took great pride, had fallen precipitously.

When the "built with highest quality and close attention to detail" folks merge with General Motors Corporation (or generic music corporation) types in partnerships, more often than not, it ain't pretty.

 

[jerrydyer]

Ive seen inside some peaveys. not all the cheapest parts so your theory is incorrect. Same for a lot of other major manufacturers. They do cut corners in some spots but not ALL. Peavey is a good co.

 

[jerrydyer]

Not enough.

GAS is strong, but conscience is too ...

Come on guys, give me some more

its always good to have a nice chunk o change set aside for the deal you KNOW you aint gonna pass on.

 

[stratotone]

Ive seen inside some peaveys. not all the cheapest parts so your theory is incorrect. Same for a lot of other major manufacturers. They do cut corners in some spots but not ALL. Peavey is a good co.

Who said *all* the components were the cheapest parts? So what you're saying is you would have no problems buying a boutique amp from Peavey? I would. Two different mindsets between Peavey and a small builder, IMHO.

I've seen inside some peaveys too. I own a VTM, owned a JSX, it was a good amp. But I wouldn't call either of them boutique by a long shot. If Bogner sold out to Peavey, would you prefer the Peavey or the older version? I know what I'd want.

Pete