Torpedo CAB question

[Anonymous]

So guys, I'm a total noob when it comes to this device (I know what the different models do, just haven't watched any sound/video demos)
I have some recording gear (API lunchbox with Vintech preamp, SM57 and maybe other mics somewhere), I just don't have the time to set things up for quick recording
Thought I could sell that and get a Torpedo CAB. I have a THD Hot Plate, I also own a Suhr Iso Line Out. Has anybody used the CAB with those devices? Good results?
I like the idea of recording old school, but if I can do stuff for cheaper with similar results, it can be an option.

Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

Hello?

 

[xzyryabx]

Unless you want to hear yourself out of your cab, you don't really need the hot plate in the signal chain with the CAB. Not really sure what the suhr ISO does, but you really don't need that either.
Just take a cable from your amps line out or fx send and plug it into the CABs input, then a cable from the CABs output into your interface and you're all set.
I liked the cab for clean tones, but not so mch for high gain, so if you can try it out before you buy it then that would be best.
Disclaimer: maybe it's an amazing unit for high gain and i just couldn't get it configured right, I dunno. Never tried it going into FOH so maybe that's where this unit shines.

 

[Anonymous]

Unless you want to hear yourself out of your cab, you don't really need the hot plate in the signal chain with the CAB. Not really sure what the suhr ISO does, but you really don't need that either.
Just take a cable from your amps line out or fx send and plug it into the CABs input, then a cable from the CABs output into your interface and you're all set.
I liked the cab for clean tones, but not so mch for high gain, so if you can try it out before you buy it then that would be best.
Disclaimer: maybe it's an amazing unit for high gain and i just couldn't get it configured right, I dunno. Never tried it going into FOH so maybe that's where this unit shines.

The Hot Plate would be needed as a load
The ISO line out is just like a line out w/ level and inserts between the speaker output and cab
Some amps don't have line outs, using the send of the loop (some amps don't have loops either) is just preamp signal, which wouldn't be ideal. Hence the ISO line out

 

[PatF]

I would keep the lunchbox and save for the Torpedo.

You could try NadIR for free. It's an impulse response loader.

http://www.igniteamps.com/

There are lots of free IR's at other forums. The ones from Redwirez and Ownhammer are good and affordable. Recabinet is cool too. Two Notes even has a freebie you could try as well as the full program for a couple hundred bucks.

 

[Anonymous]

I would keep the lunchbox and save for the Torpedo.

You could try NadIR for free. It's an impulse response loader.

http://www.igniteamps.com/

There are lots of free IR's at other forums. The ones from Redwirez and Ownhammer are good and affordable. Recabinet is cool too. Two Notes even has a freebie you could try as well as the full program for a couple hundred bucks.

Thanks, I'll give those a look

 

[mentoneman]

the CAB interest me too, but i look at tube amp head, attenuator, torpedo IRs, pedal and rack effects, cabs, cables, switchers, ground loops, and think wouldn't i rather just shrink that giant pile of $stuff$ all down into an axe-fx II instead?

 

[Petrucci]

mentoneman, you mean, that the CAB will destroy those "tube & cab's movement of the air'' feeling and will ''equalize'' any tube gear to axe-fx II?

 

[mentoneman]

i really don't know as i have never played through the torpedo gear, but when you start to think about all the stuff you have to string together and the financial aspect of all the gear in question, the fractal way sure seems to look pretty reasonable.

i have $1k invested in just 3 overdrive pedals!
$1.5k amp
$1k in cabs
$2k in rockcrusher, gforce, footcontroller, compressor, tc delay, chorus, tuner, cables, power supply

not counting guitars!

add a torpedo to that...then what?

i was already a fan of the effects in the axe ultra, so if the most recent developments in the amp models are as good as people say, i predict i could be pretty darn happy with it.

 

[Petrucci]

Of course, you are right, mentoneman, '' pretty reasonable'' are keywords here...

 

[rcm78]

I'm considering replacing my amp with the Torpedo CAB. I should be able to use my Bogner Blue and Red, along with a CM AC Tone for dirt, Timeline/Mobius for effects into the CAB. Control it all with a Musicomlab Midi switcher. No need for an amp at all...

 

[stratotone]

the CAB interest me too, but i look at tube amp head, attenuator, torpedo IRs, pedal and rack effects, cabs, cables, switchers, ground loops, and think wouldn't i rather just shrink that giant pile of $stuff$ all down into a Kemper instead?

Fixed it for ya Pat!

 

[PatF]

I downloaded the Two Notes Wall of Sound plugin today. The free one that only has two cabinets. A little confusing to register, you have to create an account and not enter a serial # (unless you have one). They also have another app that you can make your own impulses

It rips. My best experiment with IRs yet. I tried it with a homemade JCM800 style 50 watter, a Weber MASS, and a few other plugins from Variety of Sound.

Don't be afraid to try compression and EQ before and/or after the cab sim.

I think their hardware would be a really cool addition to the gear pile.

 

[mentoneman]

the CAB interest me too, but i look at tube amp head, attenuator, torpedo IRs, pedal and rack effects, cabs, cables, switchers, ground loops, and think wouldn't i rather just shrink that giant pile of $stuff$ all down into a Kemper instead?

Fixed it for ya Pat!

loving that bad boy huh?


maybe one day a fractal or kemper all in one floor unit with next gen IRs.
i gravitate to the fractal effects versus what i've heard from the kemper fx.

tell you what i don't want to do is relearn yet another menu system or new convention which i see happening with two notes and kemper. i've already owned and sussed out the axe to some degree, minus the IR and profiling world. i do remember loading a couple of new cabs in the ultra though.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I'd love to see a comparison video of a hot Marshall into the CAB vs a real mic and speaker. So far I know the cleans are good and the light crunch is acceptable, let's hear what it can do with a pushed or modded marshall.

 

[Erock]

With what you have, that will work nicely with the cab IMO. The line out for the suhr or hot plate will give you the signal after your power amp, which works better than a amp line out or fx loop out ime. This way you can turn off the power amp sims, and only use the speaker cabs, while still getting the coloration from your power section. I've had great results using a weber attenuator and the cab this way.

 

[stratotone]

the CAB interest me too, but i look at tube amp head, attenuator, torpedo IRs, pedal and rack effects, cabs, cables, switchers, ground loops, and think wouldn't i rather just shrink that giant pile of $stuff$ all down into a Kemper instead?

Fixed it for ya Pat!

loving that bad boy huh?


maybe one day a fractal or kemper all in one floor unit with next gen IRs.
i gravitate to the fractal effects versus what i've heard from the kemper fx.

tell you what i don't want to do is relearn yet another menu system or new convention which i see happening with two notes and kemper. i've already owned and sussed out the axe to some degree, minus the IR and profiling world. i do remember loading a couple of new cabs in the ultra though.

I'm on 2 years plus with the Kemper, still loving it. Probably the longest honeymoon period I've had with a piece of gear.

I recently sold a Two Notes CAB after playing with it for a few months - I think they have the best IRs right now. I've gotten pretty good at doing Kemper profiles, miking cabs and such, so my main interest in the CAB was going to be in capturing the IRs from my cabs with my microphones and then use them with the Kemper when profiling. It would have been a great idea - I don't have to set up mics each time I wanted to make a new set of profiles.

However, it just didn't work that well. Capturing a IR and using the CAB with that versus a microphone was close, but the microphone sounded better. One thing that was pretty awesome about the CAB is that you can set up IRs in the software and then load them into the CAB. It's a great solution if you can't mike a loud cab. In my experience, the cranked amp and mic sounds better than the CAB though.

 

[mentoneman]

good info pete

thank you

 

[Anonymous]

Did anybody ever compare the Live and the CAB?
They seem to have the same technical specs, except for the load

 

[robertkoa]

Unless you want to hear yourself out of your cab, you don't really need the hot plate in the signal chain with the CAB. Not really sure what the suhr ISO does, but you really don't need that either.
Just take a cable from your amps line out or fx send and plug it into the CABs input, then a cable from the CABs output into your interface and you're all set.
I liked the cab for clean tones, but not so mch for high gain, so if you can try it out before you buy it then that would be best.
Disclaimer: maybe it's an amazing unit for high gain and i just couldn't get it configured right, I dunno. Never tried it going into FOH so maybe that's where this unit shines.

I wonder if it would sound better for high gain with an EQ just before the CAB.

You use a roll off about minus 12db or more and start at 10k and keep lowering the center frequency , somewhere between 10K and as low as 7K , there is a point where you don't affect the core Tone but some
harsh upper artifacts are removed.

Ever try this ? I don't have the CAB but works well on some IRs in modelers etc.