Torpedo live and ubershall twin jet

[Clpether]

Want to buy a torpedo live but worried I can't use it with my twin jet since it is rated 150 watts and the torpedo has a 100 watt load box don't want to damage the amp or torpedo. Can any shed some light on the matter.Thanks!

 

[Ventura]

Don't turn it up too loud.

 

[glpg80]

Pull two tubes on the TJ and half the impedance setting.

 

[glpg80]

You can also buy a hotplate used as a 16ohm dummy load, run the torpedo at 16 ohms if and only if it allows other devices to run in parallel with it and the torpedo has an adjustable load parameter, and then this will share the load of the output on an 8 ohm setting of the amplifier by running both of them in parallel.

Just depends on how the torpedo load section is designed - whether it is reactive or purely resistive. For this idea i would contact torpedo directly and see what limitations they have. But this is also another option.

 

[Jofipe]

I think it's two notes should make a higher value dummy load in general.... when I max out my Hiwatt, or any marshall, even my 200w Weber reactive load, it wont run for long without spazzing out.

seriously, 100w amp IS NOT = a 100w Loadbox. I would maybe run a 50w amp at fully open on a 100w load box, but i wouldn't trust it at full blast for more than 30 mins.

Seriously, try to use a hotplate as load on a SLP... fan will spin so hard it might just get airborn.

 

[hunter]

No issue guys. Please read here: viewtopic.php?f=75&t=139882

Guillaume says:

The Live can handle crazy peak levels at the input (more than 200V) so there is no problem with having a very powerful amp.

The limitation will be in the time you have before the security will switch off the sound.

A 100W Marshall JVM410 can output around 150W with all buttons soldered to max. Of course the sound is heavily distorted and I don't really know how many time the amp can handle that.

Anyway, the Live will see its temperature increasing, and simply go into security when it is too high. There is no danger, no problem, everything will go back to normal when the temperature is low enough.

 

[Clpether]

Cheers thanks for the info. I will contact the two notes first I think to find out what limitations are involved.

 

[sysexguy]

You can also buy a hotplate used as a 16ohm dummy load, run the torpedo at 16 ohms if and only if it allows other devices to run in parallel with it and the torpedo has an adjustable load parameter, and then this will share the load of the output on an 8 ...

the correct way to do this would be to put a second 8 ohm load in series (simply done with a custom speaker cable) and set the amp to 16 ohms.

That being said, generally super high gain amps like Herberts and Ubershalls have the extra power so that the amp can have the lightening fast attack and release required for certain styles of music. Unlike a vintage Marshall, Trainwreck etc. they don't need to be dimed to sound their best and in fact, have a sweet spot that's well below full power. In most cases, the results will be just fine running a Torpedo with proper unobstructed ventillation without any extra consideration (ie a second load).

The Torpedo will give the best result using a typical setting you might use with a 4x12 attached and there is no "interference" (bar owner, parent, keyboardist, police...etc etc )

Andy

 

[glpg80]

You can also buy a hotplate used as a 16ohm dummy load, run the torpedo at 16 ohms if and only if it allows other devices to run in parallel with it and the torpedo has an adjustable load parameter, and then this will share the load of the output on an 8 ...

the correct way to do this would be to put a second 8 ohm load in series (simply done with a custom speaker cable) and set the amp to 16 ohms.

That being said, generally super high gain amps like Herberts and Ubershalls have the extra power so that the amp can have the lightening fast attack and release required for certain styles of music. Unlike a vintage Marshall, Trainwreck etc. they don't need to be dimed to sound their best and in fact, have a sweet spot that's well below full power. In most cases, the results will be just fine running a Torpedo with proper unobstructed ventillation without any extra consideration (ie a second load).

The Torpedo will give the best result using a typical setting you might use with a 4x12 attached and there is no "interference" (bar owner, parent, keyboardist, police...etc etc )

Andy

Parallel is the correct manner. Half the impedance value, decreased tolerance, increased load capacity, decreased wattage requirement. Series will do nothing for heat transfer of either item individually. Wattage is based on whichever is the weakest link in terms of an impedance load.