Torpedo Reload II - NEW

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stratjacket said:
Thanks for posting the video. I’ve had a Suhr RL since they came out. I’ve tried a few others but the Suhr is a mainstay. I come out of an amp switcher to the Suhr then to my AceFxIII for IRs and time based effects, then to studio monitors.

I’m always looking for different Reactive Loads to try, I’ve gone through several. Would this be a straight drop in replacement for the Suhr in my setup? Is it stereo with 2 identical reactive loads or is it one input and comes out stereo?
If I don’t use the power amp can I just turn it off or bypass?

Thanks for posting here, very much appreciated.
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Thanks for getting back to me. Great questions! As noted above, there is just one Amp input but the unit can be configured to process this across both channels for a Stereo Rig.

You should notice a difference in the load response compared to the Suhr solution and it is definitely worth giving a go in the context of the target tones you want to achieve. I think it would be unfair of me to start commenting on which load is better as this is very subjective, however I feel the load response of Reload II is perfect for my personal needs.

The power amp cannot be disabled, however it was selected especially for its transparency so there is little to no colouration of the sound output; as such you should not need to disable this to get the tone or response you are seeking - you can obviously run your amp silently into this and use either an IR solution or the bundled GENOME software if you dont want to use speakers. Let me know if this helps and if you have any other questions, I am here to assist!
 
@RossJohnDavies Hi there! I have a handful of questions about the Reload II if that's alright.

1. It's a stereo amp. What kind of poweramps are in it, Class AB or Class D?

2. Considering it doesn't reamp with a tube power section, what exactly do the Presence and Depth knobs do. technically?

3. What specifically does the "mojo" control do, technically?


Notes: I get why the knobs are labeled Presence and Depth, because to most players, those words kinda-sorta convey what those knobs are meant to do. But simply knowing it's a reamper with a non-tube power section that has knobs labeled Presence and Depth on the front, I immediately feel lied-to, like the marketing department is playing me for a sucker, because if the unit doesn't have tube a power section, then those are not actually negative feedback impacting Presence and Depth controls. They're Treble and Bass controls, which I would be totally fine with if they were labeled that way, or "Highs" and "Lows" or whatever.

The mojo control is a tiny bit better because it doesn't use common design shorthand to try to convince players it's something it's not, but it would be nice if it was labeled something other than the "make more better" knob. Because now, if it sounds worse when on, then Torpedo as a company will look like they have bad taste. If it were me, I'd rename it to something more neutral and descriptive to inform the user that both on or off settings are equally valid.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
@RossJohnDavies Hi there! I have a handful of questions about the Reload II if that's alright.

1. It's a stereo amp. What kind of poweramps are in it, Class AB or Class D?

2. Considering it doesn't reamp with a tube power section, what exactly do the Presence and Depth knobs do. technically?

3. What specifically does the "mojo" control do, technically?


Notes: I get why the knobs are labeled Presence and Depth, because to most players, those words kinda-sorta convey what those knobs are meant to do. But simply knowing it's a reamper with a non-tube power section that has knobs labeled Presence and Depth on the front, I immediately feel lied-to, like the marketing department is playing me for a sucker, because if the unit doesn't have tube a power section, then those are not actually negative feedback impacting Presence and Depth controls. They're Treble and Bass controls, which I would be totally fine with if they were labeled that way, or "Highs" and "Lows" or whatever.

The mojo control is a tiny bit better because it doesn't use common design shorthand to try to convince players it's something it's not, but it would be nice if it was labeled something other than the "make more better" knob. Because now, if it sounds worse when on, then Torpedo as a company will look like they have bad taste. If it were me, I'd rename it to something more neutral and descriptive to inform the user that both on or off settings are equally valid.
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Thanks for getting back to me. No problem at all, please see answers below.

1. It's a stereo amp. What kind of poweramps are in it, Class AB or Class D?
It is a class D Power Amp but a very premium one at that - we actually talk about this in our recent live stream here:

2. Considering it doesn't reamp with a tube power section, what exactly do the Presence and Depth knobs do. technically
DEPTH: Emphasises the low-end frequency content of the source audio for the related channel
PRESENCE: Emphasises the high-end frequency content of the source audio for the related CHANNEL

3. What specifically does the "mojo" control do, technically?
This applies a scooped filter to the signal and we advise using this in high attenuation settings; there is also some subtle harmonic distortion that is applied to add a little more feel to the attenuated tone.

I do understand your labelling comments, however a lot of users will find these familiar and that was the basis for our choice here. In terms of the Mojo Control, we do detail the best-case use scenario for this in our box content and our user guide.

If you have any other questions, let me know!
 
@RossJohnDavies will there be any direct comparison clips between the captor x load and the reload ii? I've had great success with a torpedo live in the past but just could not get along with the load on the captor x. I ultimately went with the fractal x load as a no frills load box that sounds great in my opinion.

I'm at a point where I need an attenuator but I also want to cut down on cables in my amp switcher/loop. The reload II is the ideal product but I'm hoping to hear clips before I can move forward. I'd prefer to hear them from Two Notes vs the usual influencers on YouTube. Thanks!
 
PiggySmallz said:
@RossJohnDavies will there be any direct comparison clips between the captor x load and the reload ii? I've had great success with a torpedo live in the past but just could not get along with the load on the captor x. I ultimately went with the fractal x load as a no frills load box that sounds great in my opinion.

I'm at a point where I need an attenuator but I also want to cut down on cables in my amp switcher/loop. The reload II is the ideal product but I'm hoping to hear clips before I can move forward. I'd prefer to hear them from Two Notes vs the usual influencers on YouTube. Thanks!
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Thanks for reaching out and a valid question indeed. We are not planning on doing this as it can be quite subjective dependent on a number of factors, however we will be publishing the impedance curves at the various Ω settings tomorrow - I will be posting them here for sure!

Whereas Captor X featured a U shape curve, Reload II has been entirely re-engineered from the ground-up with a resonant peak where you would expect it. We are scheduled to ship in April 2025 and my suggestion would be to demo a unit in the context of your rig. For me and my backline, the results are night-and-day but I completely understand this is a personal preference.
 
Hi Everyone,

Following on from my post above, since launching Reload II we have been asked a lot of questions concerning the new––and improved––Celestion Approved Load Response, including multiple requests for the impedance curves for our latest flagship attenuator / amplifier. In developing Reload II's all-new reactive load we were conscious not to match to a specific speaker (due to variations rooted in the accompanying enclosure size) but to a range of drivers, averaging the impedance for optimum performance across the breadth of amplifiers on the market. The diagrams linked below illustrate the impedance curves of Reload II's reactive load when set at 4-, 8- or 16-Ohms operation.

4Ω Impedance Curve
8Ω Impedance Curve
16Ω Impedance Curve

If you have any questions concerning this, please do not hesitate to let me know - I am always happy to dive in and help!
 
Here is one of the first vids/demos on this unit. I will be honest, considering how simple the features are, I am surprised Michael didn't do a comparison of the amp straight in vs the reload attenuation and then vol match them. If that is it's one claim to fame, we need to see it. If not, it is a crowded space.. the new BOSS Waza is packed full of features if you trust the power load limit on the things. It's a tough space to be competing in.

 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Here is one of the first vids/demos on this unit. I will be honest, considering how simple the features are, I am surprised Michael didn't do a comparison of the amp straight in vs the reload attenuation and then vol match them. If that is it's one claim to fame, we need to see it. If not, it is a crowded space.. the new BOSS Waza is packed full of features if you trust the power load limit on the things. It's a tough space to be competing in.

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The stereo amp and effects loop make this a plug and play w/d/w system. Very interested in this one.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Here is one of the first vids/demos on this unit. I will be honest, considering how simple the features are, I am surprised Michael didn't do a comparison of the amp straight in vs the reload attenuation and then vol match them. If that is it's one claim to fame, we need to see it. If not, it is a crowded space.. the new BOSS Waza is packed full of features if you trust the power load limit on the things. It's a tough space to be competing in.

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is the new Boss safer than the old one?
 
The Fryette PowerStation is still the best product if you want a loadbox and volume decrease or increase.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Here is one of the first vids/demos on this unit. I will be honest, considering how simple the features are, I am surprised Michael didn't do a comparison of the amp straight in vs the reload attenuation and then vol match them. If that is it's one claim to fame, we need to see it. If not, it is a crowded space.. the new BOSS Waza is packed full of features if you trust the power load limit on the things. It's a tough space to be competing in.

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Thanks for getting in touch. There are quite a few units out there at the moment so we're sure you will get the comparison you want in the coming weeks. In addition, the product will be shipping early April so if you get a chance to demo one, I cant recommend it enough!
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Here is one of the first vids/demos on this unit. I will be honest, considering how simple the features are, I am surprised Michael didn't do a comparison of the amp straight in vs the reload attenuation and then vol match them. If that is it's one claim to fame, we need to see it. If not, it is a crowded space.. the new BOSS Waza is packed full of features if you trust the power load limit on the things. It's a tough space to be competing in.

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Sounds promising to me… looking forward to getting mine in for sure.
 
Eazy-ESP said:
is the new Boss safer than the old one?
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I've been running the original WAZA TAE daily for 5+ years, with like 12 different amps (including Mesa Rectos and Suhr OD100) in my amp switcher attenuator loop. Not a single issue so far, not even remotely.
With all due respect to John (I love all things Suhr), he's got other reasons to say things he said.
 
Even if he's right about the TAE, it's only problematic with Resonance on the highest setting. Set it to low and forget about it.

I've had one for like 4+ years with no issues across a Wizards, Mesa, and a bunch of Marshall-y amps from 20-100w.
 
ners said:
Even if he's right about the TAE, it's only problematic with Resonance on the highest setting. Set it to low and forget about it.

I've had one for like 4+ years with no issues across a Wizards, Mesa, and a bunch of Marshall-y amps from 20-100w.
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Works especially well with Marshall based amps. I have even used the higher settings without issue extensively. I can see amps with no negative feedback having issues though.
 
Epiplatys said:
I've been running the original WAZA TAE daily for 5+ years, with like 12 different amps (including Mesa Rectos and Suhr OD100) in my amp switcher attenuator loop. Not a single issue so far, not even remotely.
With all due respect to John (I love all things Suhr), he's got other reasons to say things he said.
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Hey, good enough for Yngwie, good enough for me. That guy pounds his amps and if he trusts his old Marshalls on a Waza.... I'd take the chance.
 
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