TriAxis - Voodoo Lab Ground Control Pro WTF?

[Markedman]

New to midi. New to TriAxis.

So far I've gotten the two to work together, to change presets, that's it. Can I change the parameters from the controller or do I have to change that by hand and store it?

I thought for sure I could do all sorts of crap with a controller other than change just the presets.

Ever watch a tutorial on eBay for the Ground Control? All, I mean all of them have a confused person trying to show people how to do something they have no clue about. "Wait a second, oops, let me check the manual" which is like looking at my foot when I'm drunk!

 

[bhuard75]

I dont think you will be able to edit the individual presets from the GCP if I understand you correctly. Yes, you need to edit and save them manually, then assign the midi channel.

 

[phil b]

I sold my Triaxis long ago but it is capable of CC messaging, so yes, you can control each parameter. If using an expression pedal you can adjust on the fly in real time. If not you only have the option of a fixed parameter.
Basically you should be able to assign a footswitch on the GCP (I have a Rocktron Midi Raider and you can assign rows of switches) and control lets say a gain boost. You would program a fixed number to your CC switch and that would be the amount of gain that would be applied every time you hit that switch. Doing it that way means no matter what preset your on you would always have a gain boost available. With an expression pedal you could adjust the amount of gain in real time rather than being a fixed value.

Best thing to do is check the manual on what parameters you can control and start programming. Its much easier just altering presets to taste but the flexibility is there to control in real time or add/subtract certain parameters fixed. Grab both those manuals and start reading!

 

[Dave L]

You will not be doing any preset programming from the foot controller, you will dial the presets in and save them by hand on the front of the Tri, but it can be useful to control a couple of key parameters live with MIDI CC within a saved preset. Like having gain or output volume on a expression pedal, for example.

 

[shredhead7]

The version 2 triaxis and beyond is capable of CC changes, along with the Red 1 board replaced with the Rec or fat.

I have run a triaxis for 15 years, but I never got into the CC of the Triaxis. The reality is that for distortion, you're going to most likely end up with a ld2 channel preset and then have a clean preset. The ld2 modes clean up so well by rolling back the volume on your guitar, there is no need to do it via CC. If you want a lead guitar patch and a rhythm patch, the changes are instant by pressing the midi controller, you won't need CC there either.

As to assigning midi patches, the first 20 on the triaxis are factory reserved. Starting with patch 21, create a good dirt rhythm, personally, I like ld2 green (mark iv). From memory, 8g 7t 4m 2b 0 8dist 4.5master 4v, my lead sound is ld2 yellow, 8 6 4.5 4 0 8 3. A little thicker and closer to the John Petrucci settings. Note, the higher the treble setting, the more gain you get, but the lower the bass needs to be. It's not uncommon to see people running these with the bass at 0.

So programming the triaxis. Preset 21 and patch 21 are the same. Program your controller to that first number 21 (that is the actual midi number that the controller board cares about). So my first button on my controller is set to 21, my TC Gmaj ii preset 1, set to light chorus and a little stereo delay on this patch. My next button is set to the same triaxis patch, but my TC preset 2, with flanger to do VH type stuff. Button 3 is my lead tone, so Triaxis patch 22 set to preset 22, ld2 y. My TC is preset 3, more delays, etc.

As a footnote, I believe that I am using the TC as the first midi device in the chain with the through going to the in on the triaxis. It's been forever since I programmed it, but I believe you can make the TC midi settings look like preset 1 = 21, preset 2 = 22 or similar. That means when your foot controller button 1 as a default is midi program 1, the TC changes to preset 1, but sends a signal of 21, which the Triaxis needs. A hell o a lot easier than the Triaxis' system or the midi foot controller.

Basically, I have five sounds built into the triaxis, and then set the first LCD on the triaxis to what ever corresponding midi patch I need. So that basic dirty rhythm might be set to 21 21(the actual patch), 22 21, 27 21 and my lead might be 23 22(the actual patch) 24 22. Again, the first number is what is being received from the TC GMaj midi.

 

[Markedman]

Thanks for the advice.

I have the volume pedal changing the parameters on my presets. Now I need to think about how I want to use the feature.

At first, it was as if I was riding the volume on my guitar, then I realized I could make it so I was using both the tone and volume knob at one time.

I could have the clean tone and heavy tone on one channel and gradually ease into the desired tone on a particular song. Or, I can have it set so it just adds edge and volume for lead.

Every channel could have a slight change or a drastic overhaul! Lots to think about, cool feature, I might as well make use of it while I have it.

Still, it would be great to be able to change all that shit from the controller, I can see how to do it with a flow chart but, nope, not happening without a new chip and computer program. I should call Voodoo lab. I will make a video for idiots, a very fucking clear video showing a fucking flow chart and me doing it without saying, "well it worked the last time, I'm not sure why that happened".