tried the plexitone pedal with my modded peacemaker

[Gainfreak]

I'm thinking it's more because you need to crank the snots out of the mojave in order to get that sound. The Pedal more then likely gets what he wants at a less then kill people volume

as usual sir gainfreak is correct. the sound of this rig down low is cranked plexi glory!!!
killer dynamic response. you would play this rig and love it for what it does. not super soak but TONE!!!!

I know I would love it. I've loved every rig that you have put together so far.

just a heads up and this might shock everyone here ,but in the last year or so I've been playing mostly dry with a hint of delay and the gain has gone down a ton.
With that said, after reviewing some of the audio of my live shows, I'm going back to what I feel comfortable with, which is gain up a bit and more delay on solos
The last year has been a learning experiance. Ive now come to the conclusion...There is only good tone or bad tone and I don't care if the gain is up or down or if the effects are on or off good is good and what you use to get there is ok IMHO.
I just saw a Lynch video and his tone was ass and he could have used more gain but because he is stuck in a mental rut, his tone was shit IMHO.
Im now for a litte less analysing and more using your ears. To many people are getting caught up in theories of what they think should sound good instead of using there ears.

all IMHO of course!!

IMO your style is wet, no way around it. When I hear dry tracks from you I can almost hear you waiting for swells or decays.

I would rather watch a 24 marathon of gay slasher flicks with Barzini than play dry myself.

Pat is a closet soaker anyways, he has that vid of him playing at his church and he is dripping

I agree with you. Ive tried to do things a different way but, Im going back to what works for me.
I think i just learned how to play that way. When i listen back to audio of me playing with no sauce it does not sound like me at all and to be quite honest with you, it pretty much sucks lol

 

[Gainfreak]

I'm thinking it's more because you need to crank the snots out of the mojave in order to get that sound. The Pedal more then likely gets what he wants at a less then kill people volume

as usual sir gainfreak is correct. the sound of this rig down low is cranked plexi glory!!!
killer dynamic response. you would play this rig and love it for what it does. not super soak but TONE!!!!

I know I would love it. I've loved every rig that you have put together so far.

just a heads up and this might shock everyone here ,but in the last year or so I've been playing mostly dry with a hint of delay and the gain has gone down a ton.
With that said, after reviewing some of the audio of my live shows, I'm going back to what I feel comfortable with, which is gain up a bit and more delay on solos
The last year has been a learning experiance. Ive now come to the conclusion...There is only good tone or bad tone and I don't care if the gain is up or down or if the effects are on or off good is good and what you use to get there is ok IMHO.
I just saw a Lynch video and his tone was ass and he could have used more gain but because he is stuck in a mental rut, his tone was shit IMHO.
Im now for a litte less analysing and more using your ears. To many people are getting caught up in theories of what they think should sound good instead of using there ears.

all IMHO of course!!

IMO your style is wet, no way around it. When I hear dry tracks from you I can almost hear you waiting for swells or decays.

I would rather watch a 24 marathon of gay slasher flicks with Barzini than play dry myself.

Pat is a closet soaker anyways, he has that vid of him playing at his church and he is dripping

I agree with you. Ive tried to do things a different way but, Im going back to what works for me.
I think i just learned how to play that way. When i listen back to audio of me playing with no sauce it does not sound like me at all and to be quite honest with you, it pretty much sucks lol

everything isn't meant to be played without sugo

Preach it!!

 

[mentoneman]

The one thing I remember about the peacemaker now is that it reminds me of all of my favorite classic Marshall recorded tones throughout the years

Acdc Gary Moore type fiery rock grind where you can still hear the strings and twang of the guitar. The top end is still defined.

 

[mixohoytian]

^^^ this

 

[mentoneman]

definitely the honeymoon phase as i played it for the first time an hour last night.

but the impression i get is this-i have played a ton of marshalls and have had a few under my roof over the years to hold onto and really put through the ringer. based on this experience i can say 100 percent that this is the best plexi marshall sound i have ever personally put together in any of my rigs. this pedal compliments this amp better than any pedal amp combo i have ever had or heard.

it's not as VH brown as i put together with my old peacemaker rig and the tonebone classic, but it's got a raw, dynamic twang that i'm sure would please most plexi affecionados. for me VH tone is a committed amount of gain that basically means it's going to be played within a hard rock context, but this tone i had last night could be country, blues, indy, ballad, and textured atmospheric approved as well.

and i'm sure that over time i will find a way to create a VH approved sound with maybe an additional piece of the puzzle.

the drive mode is very sweet dynamic plexi crunch that swings so well from chirpy chompy classic marshall to sweet glassy clean with the guitar volume.

stack on the select button and now you have a layer of higher gain which allows you to play single note lines more fluidly and adss some lower mid crack filler to make notes rounder.

the final button is a clean gain boost so you can lift the prior tone out of the mix for solos and get a little more liquid out of the deal. awesome. think more audley freed/cry of love and jake e lee/badlands than van halen, but the TONE is alive and rich.

SUPER HAPPY!!

Cool, but why do you need a pedal if Vic modded the amp for more gain? Still not enough gain for liquidy legato? Seemed to me the PeaceMaker was on the verge of that and just needed some gain stage component values adjusted to give that sound...

Steve

because i wanted to preserve the tone/personality that vic designed the amp for, and as we kept creeping the gain up, the clarity of the raw plexi type tone started becoming compromised.

 

[jamminjimi]

Let's face it, you're running a Plexi style distortion into a Peacemaker and crowing about what a great amp the PM is. In actuall fact you can run that pedal into ANY Marshall NMV clone and get the same thrills.
I OWNED a PM and found it a decent amp but lacking the upper mids of a good Marshall.
Same pedal thru a Reinhardt, Germino, Metro, most of which I owned, yields a similar tone. You're basically using the amp as a PA for the pedal.

On another note, you run thru so much ambience how can one even determine the tone you get? You can drop Pignose down a well and get your tone.

 

[Zachman]

Let's face it, you're running a Plexi style distortion into a Peacemaker and crowing about what a great amp the PM is. In actuall fact you can run that pedal into ANY Marshall NMV clone and get the same thrills.
I OWNED a PM and found it a decent amp but lacking the upper mids of a good Marshall.
Same pedal thru a Reinhardt, Germino, Metro, most of which I owned, yields a similar tone. You're basically using the amp as a PA for the pedal.

On another note, you run thru so much ambience how can one even determine the tone you get? You can drop Pignose down a well and get your tone.

Go fuck yourself Carla

Nice Moobs!!!

 

[mentoneman]

Let's face it, you're running a Plexi style distortion into a Peacemaker and crowing about what a great amp the PM is. In actuall fact you can run that pedal into ANY Marshall NMV clone and get the same thrills.
I OWNED a PM and found it a decent amp but lacking the upper mids of a good Marshall.
Same pedal thru a Reinhardt, Germino, Metro, most of which I owned, yields a similar tone. You're basically using the amp as a PA for the pedal.

On another note, you run thru so much ambience how can one even determine the tone you get? You can drop Pignose down a well and get your tone.

no matter what amp i use, pedals/effects let me customize the tone beyond what any manufacturer allows me to tweak given the stock tone controls.

i look at it this way-the builder didn't have my guitar, pickups, speakers, touch, and any other personal attributes that would skew the results, so pedals allow me to refine the tone to balance the outcome to my favor.

and yes even though i add my effects and drive boxes to the equation, it wouldn't sound great to me unless the amp was great. and the peacemaker is great.

 

[mentoneman]

you guys hip to graphene?

i want an amp wired with this stuff! there is supposedly a sheet of this stuff they demoed which is basically invisible yet strong enough that they dropped some bricks on it and the bricks looked like they were floating.

lower resistance, less power requirement, lower heat, flexible, design control down to the atomic layer---

couple that with that Venter cat that created the first computer-parented synthetic organism , transplanting a genome of one bacteria into another, proving we can make more effective vaccines, biofuels, and we are in store for some wild technological swings this year.

 

[tweed]

Let's face it, you're running a Plexi style distortion into a Peacemaker and crowing about what a great amp the PM is. In actuall fact you can run that pedal into ANY Marshall NMV clone and get the same thrills.
I OWNED a PM and found it a decent amp but lacking the upper mids of a good Marshall.
Same pedal thru a Reinhardt, Germino, Metro, most of which I owned, yields a similar tone. You're basically using the amp as a PA for the pedal.

On another note, you run thru so much ambience how can one even determine the tone you get? You can drop Pignose down a well and get your tone.

Reporting to you LIVE - from a Van down by the River!!

 

[tweed]

you guys hip to graphene?

i want an amp wired with this stuff! there is supposedly a sheet of this stuff they demoed which is basically invisible yet strong enough that they dropped some bricks on it and the bricks looked like they were floating.

lower resistance, less power requirement, lower heat, flexible, design control down to the atomic layer---

couple that with that Venter cat that created the first computer-parented synthetic organism , transplanting a genome of one bacteria into another, proving we can make more effective vaccines, biofuels, and we are in store for some wild technological swings this year.

Now that is some crazy stuff!!

 

[mentoneman]

low bugdet iphone clip of my recent tone machine re-aquisition:

i was using the tonebone in this one for the heavier part, as this was made prior to receiving the plexitone pedal.

still not shabby for plopping an iphone on a table--you get some of the magic mojave essence!

 

[tweed]

sounds GREAT for a phone vid. Bet it's the panty dropper live.

 

[Meathead]

Let's hear a clip of this bad boy!
I'm considering the Plexitone for flyout gigs like Scott.

 

[mentoneman]

im pretty happy to say the least!
I can't imagine any classic marshall fan hopping on this rig and being disappointed