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Floyd Eye said:
It's funny how during the Obama years EVERYBODY knew and talked about how fucked it was. Especially healthcare, but also gas, used cars, groceries. The stock market. Fucking everything. And of course as usual years later you dopes think everyone has forgotten the 3% tax added to home sales, the lead remediation schemes, pure money grabs to fund Ovomitcare. Sorry you made whatever decisions you had to make to end up on government healthcare, but while it may be helping you, it absolutely fucked everyone else. I think I see the disconnect though. People who relied on the government probably did think Obama was great. Those of us who were running businesses and working our asses off to raise our families, buy our homes and fund our retirement saw it for what it was. And what it always is. Every god damn democrat wrecks the fucking shit then blames it on the previous administration. And all good liberal parrots give the credit to the democratic failure 4 years later when a republican comes in, cuts taxes and boosts consumer confidence and spurs small business growth. It's a fucking joke. Like I said, you can run that game on some dumbass, but I was there, fucking struggling. Fuck your revisionist history. Not even regular democrats will say the Obama economy was good. My guess is you think Biden was doing good too. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
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There are millions of Americans working their asses off who can’t afford 1500-2K for Health insurance as their jobs don’t provide a deal on it or offer it at all. I worked very hard for many years for a company that had a deal on healthcare and when I got phased out because of a surgery that changed my physical ability to do the position, I couldn’t find full time work that would get us insurance. Cobra was going to be 1500 plus a month just for me and my a wife and would have decimated our savings in just one year, so damn right I hooked up with the ACA.
There is nothing revisionist about the history, it’s all there in stats and numbers. Like I said, we’re talking for the entire country.
We are now having mass layoffs and large local employers shutting down, farms facing closure with Trump and his asinine Tariff’s. I’d say he’s doing a pretty good job of keeping the wrecking ball swinging on people’s ability to plan for a future.
 
Floyd Eye said:
I didn't like McCain. Anyone who invested right after the collapse and didn't panic and pull their shit out did ok on that end. That collapse by the way was a result of Obama and Christopher Dowd giving home loans to people they knew could never repay them, incidentally.
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Christ you talk about revisionist history, so how exactly did that happen as the recession began in late 2007, a full year before Obama took office and crashed in late 2008, again before he took office? Plus I didn’t know Obama discussed economic policy with Fishbone 😏
Also didn’t know Obama worked for a mortgage company 🤷‍♂️
 
skoora said:
There are millions of Americans working their asses off who can’t afford 1500-2K for Health insurance as their jobs don’t provide a deal on it or offer it at all. I worked very hard for many years for a company that had a deal on healthcare and when I got phased out because of a surgery that changed my physical ability to do the position, I couldn’t find full time work that would get us insurance. Cobra was going to be 1500 plus a month just for me and my a wife and would have decimated our savings in just one year, so damn right I hooked up with the ACA.
There is nothing revisionist about the history, it’s all there in stats and numbers. Like I said, we’re talking for the entire country.
We are now having mass layoffs and large local employers shutting down, farms facing closure with Trump and his asinine Tariff’s. I’d say he’s doing a pretty good job of keeping the wrecking ball swinging on people’s ability to plan for a future.
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Dude, if you can't find a decent job right now you ain't looking for one.

The insurance racket was fucked up before Obamacare. The damage was tenfold after. Sure people who picked the wrong careers or failed to learn marketable skills or prepare for the possibility of life changing events can now be better served by Obamacare, since insurance rates across the spectrum tripled after it passed.

And you need to quit glossing over the fact that Obama and the democrats were directly to blame for the market collapse. Fannie Mae, Chris Dowd, giving mortgages to people based on their skin color and not their ability to actually pay, etc.. Ring any bells ?
 
Floyd Eye said:
That collapse by the way was a result of Obama and Christopher Dowd giving home loans to people they knew could never repay them, incidentally.
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Obama wasn't president when the sub-prime mortgage collapse happened. Bush was. Obama was sworn in Jan 2009. The collapse happened in 2008.
 
SatanicPanic said:
Obama wasn't president when the sub-prime mortgage collapse happened. Bush was. Obama was sworn in Jan 2009. The collapse happened in 2008.
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Not you too. Scroll up. And for fuck sakes quit getting your financial information from people who have a stake in making you believe it wasn't them.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Not you too. Scroll up. And for fuck sakes quit getting your financial information from people who have a stake in making you believe it wasn't them.
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I don't have to. I lived through it. You might be right that Obama made it worse but he was not the cause. Get your facts straight.
 
SatanicPanic said:
I don't have to. I lived through it. You might be right that Obama made it worse but he was not the cause. Get your facts straight.
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Lots of people lived through it. That doesn't mean they know what the fuck they are talking about. My facts are straight. Since you don't want to research the facts yourself, let me remind you Obama was a senator in 2004. And the president isn't some puppet master in control of the economy.
 
Floyd Eye said:
I didn't like McCain. Anyone who invested right after the collapse and didn't panic and pull their shit out did ok on that end. That collapse by the way was a result of Obama and Christopher Dowd giving home loans to people they knew could never repay them, incidentally.
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I remember this well because every third house in FL had a for sale sign up front. I knew people who were upside down on their home loan after the crash. You had banks knowingly approving loans on places the knew people couldn't afford, and ballooning interest rates that dopes didn't read the fine print on. It's the same as covid, people should be doing time for it instead they are still free.
 
VonBonfire said:
I remember this well because every third house in FL had a for sale sign up front. I knew people who were upside down on their home loan after the crash. You had banks knowingly approving loans on places the knew people couldn't afford, and ballooning interest rates that dopes didn't read the fine print on. It's the same as covid, people should be doing time for it instead they are still free.
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Yes sir. And let's ask the rest of the class which party and which party members were responsible for that shit. 🤣 🤣 🤣🤣🤣:loco::loco:
 
Or they read the link I posted and are now thinking “ God damn, that fucking prick Floyd is right”. 🤣🤣
 
Floyd Eye said:
Lots of people lived through it. That doesn't mean they know what the fuck they are talking about. My facts are straight. Since you don't want to research the facts yourself, let me remind you Obama was a senator in 2004.
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I'll read the article, respect. You gave a source, I'll review it.

Floyd Eye said:
And the president isn't some puppet master in control of the economy.
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True enough, even though I think many MAGA voters believe they are. Actually, many voters in general.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Or they read the link I posted and are now thinking “ God damn, that fucking prick Floyd is right”. 🤣🤣
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Actually no. Because you’re not right. Obama participated in a case against one bank to stop redlining and it only affected the people in the class action. It didn’t change any legislation, only that the bank paid out and would change its internal policies. The same bank that got hit with a 7Billion payout in 2014 for mis representing sub prime mortgages and their investment rating. Obama didn’t create nationwide predatory lending due to the cheap cost of credit at the time. He also didn’t bundle sub prime mortgages that were toxic and sell them as investments with a triple AAA rating.
 
SatanicPanic said:
I'll read the article, respect. You gave a source, I'll review it.



True enough, even though I think many MAGA voters believe they are. Actually, many voters in general.
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Don’t conflate people that voted for Trump with MAGA voters, if you are using that term to describe people that buy all his bullshit.
 
skoora said:
Actually no. Because you’re not right. Obama participated in a case against one bank to stop redlining and it only affected the people in the class action. It didn’t change any legislation, only that the bank paid out and would change its internal policies. The same bank that got hit with a 7Billion payout in 2014 for mis representing sub prime mortgages and their investment rating. Obama didn’t create nationwide predatory lending due to the cheap cost of credit at the time. He also didn’t bundle sub prime mortgages that were toxic and sell them as investments with a triple AAA rating.
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You’re a dope.
 
skoora said:
That’s Ok, you’re like the guy you voted for. Doesn’t like the number he gets so he fires the messenger and makes up his own number.
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Except for the fact that the only people who think that are liberal democrats with government subsidized lives. And dopes.
 
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