uli vs m schenker

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MS is great but for me Uli is it. His voice is so unique and is IMO such a big influence of many of the better shredder types.
 
Yeah technically Uli has more chops and a wider variety of scales in his music so he would win that one. I think Shenker has better feel for me and his own unique phrasing that nobody else does. When he plays, you know it's him.He throws these odd notes in here or there which really go far beyond the pentatonic box. Both great players though. Shenker with a more vocal quality to his playing, Uli with more of a violin approach.

EDIT: Can you ever hear Uli's influence on Malmsteen though wow.
 
Uli is clearly the more technical player.

Schenker has much better tone/feel.

Neither really resonated with me which I really hate to say. I do respect their work though.

I have a few friends that would skin me alive for anything short of all out Schenker worship! :gethim:
 
Mmm, really hard to choose one.

I think i prefer MS, but im not sure.
 
Uli is a very mind-mannered. Michael, not so much... :boxer:
 
Both are great, but Uli for me ! He is way more tasteful in his playing.
 
This has been the nagging question for nearly 40 years... (kinda like sticky fingers vs. exile
on main street)...
 
Mesa\Kramer":d75cv0io said:
Schenker needs better representation here.

Tone alone Schenker destroys Uli.


Uli prolly has a few more chops, but can get really out there sometimes in disonance and slop.
Much prefer Michael.






Prolly his most shreddy solo ever on this one

Beginning and main solo @ 3:10

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Let me preface this by saying I own flying Vs largely because of the Schenker brothers. I might be a little biased :) Watched the first video posted by OP. Tonally atrocious and sounds like a Creed shreds video as played by someone who actually has chops, if that makes sense. I know Uli can play (Duh); but that clip struck me as just a mess. Then I listened to the acoustic video and heard the type of playing I expected out of him. He is a beast and his note choice is so odd yet amazing (overall). That being said, I would rather listen to players he influenced then the man himself.

Schenker (other than when he lets the bottle get the best of him, which is admittedly too frequently) is jaw dropping in a more accessible way. He never plays a wrong note, even when he goes outside the box. His tone is perfect as well. I will say I don't like a lot of his solo songs as they veer a little too far into filler material (imho) or aren't as metal as I would like lol; but the dude rips the emotion out of every note and run he plays. Jabs was a great replacement for him as he is cut from the same cloth.
 
controlled_voltage":1utawmuv said:
It's a really tough call…..i love them both dearly,and was exposed to Michael first.

But the astral physicist/ ex pothead in me votes uli just for his extended repertoire and overall jaw dropping ability.

I still freak out on polar nights and fly to the rainbow live….The amount of FUNK in his rhythm playing is not mentioned often but he just has a lot more swing and yes FUNK as in american R & B syncopation than MS-I am sure due to all of that hendrix love.

That said MS is more down to earth and grounded in hard rock..and sometimes you don't want to be challenged ?
In the end they are both gods and I feel lucky to be able to be alive to appreciate their music.I met Uli once and he signed my vinyl copy of virgin killers-as many have said he is the kindest most zen like gentle soul.
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I got into the Scorpions in the Blackout period. I got some of their older cassettes, but to be honest; I liked the streamlined, less progressive/trippy vibe from Blackout on. Commercial Scoripions. They lost me once they started whistling in songs and doing crap like "Tease me Please Me" :) I need to revisit the Uli material with my 41 year old point of view and see if I appreciate it more now that I am older. The funk vibe you speak of is very intriguing to me as I don't remember them like that at all and it seems like an odd direction for the Scorpions to go :) If I enjoy Sails of Charon; what other tunes are in that vein that I might dig?
 
dstroud":xyjwq834 said:
apples and oranges, I like them both! BUT that being said I would listen to Michael Schenker more often and can't seem to listem enough.
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I prefer listening to Michael but it's of course a matter of stylistic preference.

By the way, I hear a lot more Schenker influence in your playing on Surfin' the Shark than anything else of yours I've heard. Recognized it immediately and dig it.
 
growing up in hawaii my uli/scheker influence was second hand from the two coolest players i knew;
zachman and his cousin mark k. here.

mark's band sacred rite was the only game in town during our high school years but they killed most of the hollywood hair bands of the next decade and it was a blast seeing them rip covers and originals all night long
take a listen to mark sing and rip a gem of a solo on this one:
 
not a fair comparison as Uli is in a league of his own and doubt there is anything he couldn't play. The similarities are both are phenomenal players and they both have plenty of songs you can't stomach through just to hear the lead break lol. I like Uli better for his neo classical and Vivaldi stuff but I also like MS w/UFO ans MSG had some really strong rock songs that I like.
 
With Schenker's constant wearing of the skull cap in recent years, I've often wondered which Scorpions guitarist sports the most stylish head apparel ? Uli and Matthias with their ubiquitous head bandanas vs. Schenker's plain ol' wool cap ?
 
mentoneman":2axhya94 said:
growing up in hawaii my uli/scheker influence was second hand from the two coolest players i knew;
zachman and his cousin mark k. here.

mark's band sacred rite was the only game in town during our high school years but they killed most of the hollywood hair bands of the next decade and it was a blast seeing them rip covers and originals all night long
take a listen to mark sing and rip a gem of a solo on this one:
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Yeah, Sacred Rite!!!

I remember them, great band! I remember they did a great cover of Elanor Rigby. I never got to see them. I was living in L.A. at the time and I heard them on cassette tape.
 
My first listening experience with Scorpians was the Love Drive album followed by Virgin Killers.
UFO was also right there as well, and I loved all of it.
MS's playing was more accessible with a more rock feel and groove with awesome playing.
I hated UFO's studio sound. It was so dry and lacked any live feel at all.

"Strangers in the night" was an eye opener at how good UFO was, and how awesome MS is.
I kind of lost out on Uli. But after hearing his playing later, and hearing it again with these posts...WOW, what an amazing musician and guitar player. He has a broader musical style compared to MS. Both rock and have great technique and style for the music they play.
Yet, putting Uli in context with the ear in which he was doing his thing, his playing and music are outstanding. Really, who else was playing like him during the 70's? There were more players playing, or trying to play, like MS. Uli was on a different level that clearly influenced later players who were more "shred" than tasteful speed as Uli was/is.

EVH came and blew people away with his brand of playing, and it too was phenomenal for the time. But still, Uli was actually way above even EVH in terms of music and ability imo.
I've never been on to give a number or ranking to a player or to music, because to me, music is NOT a competition. Album/CD sales is a competition, but music is not.

Between the two I vote...YES!
:)
 
for as much as i love both for different reasons-
uli's exotic scale approach and schenker's hypersonic blues phrasing,

uli's sinusitis on qualudes vocals make me deduct most of his cool points.

how can someone that musical be so blind to how haggard his vocals are----i just wanna punch him in the ahnk whenever he starts singing.
 
Bob Savage":xzyd3bkb said:
dstroud":xzyd3bkb said:
apples and oranges, I like them both! BUT that being said I would listen to Michael Schenker more often and can't seem to listem enough.
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I prefer listening to Michael but it's of course a matter of stylistic preference.

By the way, I hear a lot more Schenker influence in your playing on Surfin' the Shark than anything else of yours I've heard. Recognized it immediately and dig it.
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I was actually on a MAJOR Michael Schenker kick while writing the material for that CD :lol: :LOL:
 
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