Ultimate Metal Guitar

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Ultimate Metal Guitar.. You Decide. Mostly

  • Jackson

    Votes: 35 38.5%
  • Ibanez

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • BC Rich

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • ESP

    Votes: 22 24.2%
  • Dean

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Charvel

    Votes: 14 15.4%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .
Cool, this is going well at this stage i'm suprised as on the original HC thread ESP took an early lead and stayed there,

So onto the guys who won't vote because fender or gibson aren't on there. This was also an issue on the original poll but since people are being polite here, i respond with a polite explanation. My reasons for their non inclusion is this:

As per my description, these guitars were not designed or manufactured specifically for the metal market that emerged post metallica in the early modern metal era, neither are a significant proportions of their total sales gained in these 2 markets (believe me after the last thread i looked these up and tried to interpret them as best i could). we could cite hetfields use of explorers however, by their "thrash" landmark of master of puppets when the band really came of age and found their sound he was using ESP explorers. and ESP became synonymous with the band. I would imagine people would also mention adrian smith from iron maidens use of explorers etc as well, but again a) this is not the era we're talking about, this is the era that gave rise to the modern era of heavy metal and b) the "niche" of heavy metal as a marketing demographic did not exist then, neither were guitars being mass produced in significant numbers aimed at this segemnet.

hope this is an ok explanation but i respect your decision not to vote, its just a bit of fun after all.

on a second point, Suhr? really? ;) well ok then lol pensa suhr ( in the original incarnation of the company) were most definitely not a metal style guitar company, and in the present incarnation are more or less a boutique builder. will have to take a look at the range but pretty sure they're not designed and marketed at the metal segment in general

Edit: Carparison while impressive are not a significant global player in the demographic at this time, and you don't see many playing them. hence their non inclusion. what we're trying to find here is the recognisable face of global metal guitars. i'e what brand you think of when you think of metal guitars. oddly enough, on th whole explorer thing i still think ESP as i was most exposed to them thru hetfields ESP's

and yes, i no longer play metal, but the kelly is a sexy guitar :rock:

cheers guys :thumbsup:
 
My vote was based on what guitars I think sound best for heavier styles of music, not what guitar is generally associated with the genre.
 
mrp5150":207o2c3b said:
My vote was based on what guitars I think sound best for heavier styles of music, not what guitar is generally associated with the genre.

ok.. was kinda the point of the poll
 
Dime's Deans and Washburns for sure. ESP's are cool, but just copies of other cool guitars. Gibson Explorers and Jacksons kick arse too. :yes:
 
tekbow":ur6lm70b said:
mrp5150":ur6lm70b said:
My vote was based on what guitars I think sound best for heavier styles of music, not what guitar is generally associated with the genre.

ok.. was kinda the point of the poll

Seemed to me that a lot of the replies were just voting for ESP or Jackson because they're mainly geared towards metal players. I personally don't care much for ESP, Jackson, or Ibanez stuff other than a few select models.
 
mrp5150":2bt4rzaw said:
Seemed to me that a lot of the replies were just voting for ESP or Jackson because they're mainly geared towards metal players. I personally don't care much for ESP, Jackson, or Ibanez stuff other than a few select models.

exactly, thats the point, what is the brand that springs to mind the most when thinking modern metal, i voted ESP although i wouldn't own one again, would more likely be a charvel, but as far as being geared towards a playing style and sound, i think ESP's are the epitomy of metal.

but point taken
 
Gibson LP/Explorer/V :rock:

What about Kramer? ;)


I voted for Jackson , but Esp would be second as they have dominated these days.
 
tekbow":2nkw84xe said:
mrp5150":2nkw84xe said:
Seemed to me that a lot of the replies were just voting for ESP or Jackson because they're mainly geared towards metal players. I personally don't care much for ESP, Jackson, or Ibanez stuff other than a few select models.

exactly, thats the point, what is the brand that springs to mind the most when thinking modern metal, i voted ESP although i wouldn't own one again, would more likely be a charvel, but as far as being geared towards a playing style and sound, i think ESP's are the epitomy of metal.

but point taken

Modern metal would definitely be ESP. Never been a huge fan of their stuff though. I think the paint is entirely too thick and they don't sound all that great to me. To me, nothing sounds heavier than a Gibson Explorer or a Les Paul.
 
mrp5150 said:
Modern metal would definitely be ESP. Never been a huge fan of their stuff though. I think the paint is entirely too thick and they don't sound all that great to me. To me, nothing sounds heavier than a Gibson Explorer or a Les Paul.

do you think they're articulate enough for modern metal as stock? i find current production gibsons to be quite wooly and overly dark sounding, i feel they generally need at least a change in pickups before they nail the sound.
 
I guess I'm the only one who'll step up and say BC Rich. There's no way a Warlock or a Beast is going to be used for anything but Metal. Ultimately a Gibson Flying V is my metal guitar but out of that list it has to be BC RIch for me. Still have images of Lita Ford from '84 fresh in my mind. Tight leather and a Warlock :thumbsup:
 
When I think Les Pauls I think vintage music, I can't see where people would think of metal :confused: I think of Jimmy Page, Duane Allman, Jeff Beck, Gary Moore, Peter Frampton etc. I think the only guitar (out of the major brands) that's less metal than a Les Paul is a Fender Strat. Explorers are pretty metal though :D
 
Owned many, many of each of the guitars listed. None of them touches my Suhrs for metal. ESP, and vintage Deans would be my choice from the list.
 
tekbow":tbefr52i said:
Cool, this is going well at this stage i'm suprised as on the original HC thread ESP took an early lead and stayed there,

So onto the guys who won't vote because fender or gibson aren't on there. This was also an issue on the original poll but since people are being polite here, i respond with a polite explanation. My reasons for their non inclusion is this:

As per my description, these guitars were not designed or manufactured specifically for the metal market that emerged post metallica in the early modern metal era, neither are a significant proportions of their total sales gained in these 2 markets (believe me after the last thread i looked these up and tried to interpret them as best i could). we could cite hetfields use of explorers however, by their "thrash" landmark of master of puppets when the band really came of age and found their sound he was using ESP explorers. and ESP became synonymous with the band. I would imagine people would also mention adrian smith from iron maidens use of explorers etc as well, but again a) this is not the era we're talking about, this is the era that gave rise to the modern era of heavy metal and b) the "niche" of heavy metal as a marketing demographic did not exist then, neither were guitars being mass produced in significant numbers aimed at this segemnet.

hope this is an ok explanation but i respect your decision not to vote, its just a bit of fun after all.

on a second point, Suhr? really? ;) well ok then lol pensa suhr ( in the original incarnation of the company) were most definitely not a metal style guitar company, and in the present incarnation are more or less a boutique builder. will have to take a look at the range but pretty sure they're not designed and marketed at the metal segment in general

Edit: Carparison while impressive are not a significant global player in the demographic at this time, and you don't see many playing them. hence their non inclusion. what we're trying to find here is the recognisable face of global metal guitars. i'e what brand you think of when you think of metal guitars. oddly enough, on th whole explorer thing i still think ESP as i was most exposed to them thru hetfields ESP's

and yes, i no longer play metal, but the kelly is a sexy guitar :rock:

cheers guys :thumbsup:

The Suhr Modern is most definitely. The Absence uses them. Cost wise, they are no more than a Custom Shop Jackson, BC Rich, Dean, or some of the others. Sold most of my metal guitars, except a few, and use the Suhrs in studio and live.
 
I would like to say I have owned more than I have, but I love my Jackson KV2 the most for playing metal. I haven't found anything that sounds quite as good to my ears among everything I've tried. My SG comes close, as do my friends' Gibson's. Jackson is my pick.
 
tekbow":szlbu5a9 said:
mrp5150 said:
Modern metal would definitely be ESP. Never been a huge fan of their stuff though. I think the paint is entirely too thick and they don't sound all that great to me. To me, nothing sounds heavier than a Gibson Explorer or a Les Paul.

do you think they're articulate enough for modern metal as stock? i find current production gibsons to be quite wooly and overly dark sounding, i feel they generally need at least a change in pickups before they nail the sound.
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I think it's all just opinion. Some people think ESP's sound amazing, I just personally don't. I'll take a stock Gibson over any ESP. I love their stock pickups. The 500T has always been one of my favorites. There's really no such thing as the ultimate metal guitar anyways.
 
oldmanmetal":2rrdqg97 said:
The Suhr Modern is most definitely. The Absence uses them. Cost wise, they are no more than a Custom Shop Jackson, BC Rich, Dean, or some of the others. Sold most of my metal guitars, except a few, and use the Suhrs in studio and live.

Thanks for that, and i agree, that is one metal guitar, and it's non inclusion in the poll doesn't relect the quality of Suhr guitars, in fact that reb beach model is sexy as hell, it might be an option if i can't get my hands on one of the music zoo charvels. However, by and large looking at their model range, the modern would be the only one thats aimed at the metal end of things.

what we're voting on is which company would you say is the the recognisable global face of metal (which is maybe what i should have called the poll or ultimate metal guitar brand) not who makes the singular UMG otherwise we'd be into models as well and that would definitely just get ugly :lol: :LOL:
 
Whatever the Crabcore guys use has to be the ultimate metal guitar today. :rock:
 
EXPcustom":3v7cq4rb said:
Whatever the Crabcore guys use has to be the ultimate metal guitar today. :rock:

Is that a kerry king ESP Sig in your avatar..? is that your kerry king ESP Sig in your Avatar..? please say yes..
 
tekbow":1cj5lncg said:
on a second point, Suhr? really? ;) well ok then lol pensa suhr ( in the original incarnation of the company) were most definitely not a metal style guitar company, and in the present incarnation are more or less a boutique builder. will have to take a look at the range but pretty sure they're not designed and marketed at the metal segment in general


Youre kidding right? Why, because its well made? Sorry but a guitar dosent have to have skull inlays, bevels and white binding to be the perfect metal guitar. Its a pretty closed mined approach to the while subject actually. The player makes the guitar metal, not the other way around.. other wise youre a 13 year old with a warlock.
 
ihave27frets":3ns9p2iy said:
tekbow":3ns9p2iy said:
on a second point, Suhr? really? ;) well ok then lol pensa suhr ( in the original incarnation of the company) were most definitely not a metal style guitar company, and in the present incarnation are more or less a boutique builder. will have to take a look at the range but pretty sure they're not designed and marketed at the metal segment in general


Youre kidding right? Why, because its well made? Sorry but a guitar dosent have to have skull inlays, bevels and white binding to be the perfect metal guitar. Its a pretty closed mined approach to the while subject actually. The player makes the guitar metal, not the other way around.. other wise youre a 13 year old with a warlock.

Yup.
 
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