*UPDATED*NAD: Wizard MTL (New clip w/ Friedman 412:15 cab)

[LunatiBSW]

Wow! That is some serious collection right there! Congrats!!! My god....how do the walls stay up!

Haha I know right.

Congrats!!!!

SO JEALOUS of your Wizard stable...last amp on my bucket list at the moment

Thanks dude. It’s been progress over years. Nothing sounds as huge as a wizard.

 

[LunatiBSW]

Had a second to get a “at volume” clip while I was home alone this am.
This would piss my wife and kids off downstairs at this volume.
This amp punches so hard.

 

[RedB4Black]

Sounds awesome


.... but no alt picking Metallica

 

[SomedudeinTX]

Dang sounds great!!!

 

[LunatiBSW]

Sounds awesome


.... but no alt picking Metallica

Hahaha, you caught that huh. I’m an efficient player, no diff in attack, I’ve worked at that.
If it suffered I’d play it all down stroke. But I play pretty crazy metal,
So my pick hand does what it wants at this point.
I bet I can down pick MOP as hard as anyone on this board though.

 

[John4021]

Great clip but there is nothing to capture the Chest pounding thump in person that a Wizard gives.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

sounds great

i prefer my mtl over mc2 most days as well

 

[skoora]

It sounds good but kind of smooth. I really enjoyed your Slax clips more. They had a raggedy edge to them that made the amp sound wilder or meaner. Like you have to tame it...lol

 

[D-Rock]

Amp is boosted in the clips?

 

[LunatiBSW]

Dang sounds great!!!

Thanks dude

Great clip but there is nothing to capture the Chest pounding thump in person that a Wizard gives.

This is so true. They are huge.

sounds great

i prefer my mtl over mc2 most days as well

It’s a little more metal for sure with the added options.

It sounds good but kind of smooth. I really enjoyed your Slax clips more. They had a raggedy edge to them that made the amp sound wilder or meaner. Like you have to tame it...lol

Slax was great. I made pretty much all those clips with the big Friedman 412:15 cab. It is an angry cab. I think this avatar cab in this vid is a little less aggressive sounding.
The wiz is pretty scooped here also, that may be some of it.
That slax had some great present mids. I’m def getting another Friedman. But something tighter and angrier than the slax even was.

Amp is boosted in the clips?

No boost, the MTL has a saturation knob, which helps in that department a lot.

 

[Krull]

HNAD but to be honest the Fortin Cali and Butterslax clips you did sound much better to me. I just can’t get on board with Wizards sorry.

 

[DeathbyButterslax]

Damn that sounds so good, super clear

 

[hstlaurent]

Great clip, love that tone. Thanks you for putting it together. I’m really gassing for a MTL KT150 now.

 

[Meeotch]

I'm late to the party, but stoked you're digging the MTL Brandon! What an awesome collection! I can only imagine what the KT200 would sound like through that Slax cab.

Oh, and the modded Slax is incredible. Not sure I've heard a more perfect channel for thrash than channel 2. Only been able to play it through Greenbacks so far, but looking forward to trying it through the H75's. Awesome trade mang!

 

[FourT6and2]

HNAD but to be honest the Fortin Cali and Butterslax clips you did sound much better to me. I just can’t get on board with Wizards sorry.

Agreed. OP, your Cali clips sound fantastic. This one sounds good, don't get me wrong, but it's much smoother. Gotta say one of the best Wizard clips I've heard on the web, but the Cali does it for me

 

[Racerxrated]

HNAD but to be honest the Fortin Cali and Butterslax clips you did sound much better to me. I just can’t get on board with Wizards sorry.

Agreed. OP, your Cali clips sound fantastic. This one sounds good, don't get me wrong, but it's much smoother. Gotta say one of the best Wizard clips I've heard on the web, but the Cali does it for me

It's funny, Wizards are the most raw and open/uncompressed amps out there, at least from what I've played/owned. Smooth is not the word I would use to describe the amp in the room tone. Get the volume up even at 2 and it becomes this rude pissed off animal, with/without a boost. I had a MTL 50 and a MC 100w and they were killer...not for everyone sure but for me, just the best modded Marshall type amp out there. If it wasn't for my unicorn C+ Coliseum purchase I'd still have that MC I. Rick makes amazing amps, not for the feint of heart though.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

HNAD but to be honest the Fortin Cali and Butterslax clips you did sound much better to me. I just can’t get on board with Wizards sorry.

Agreed. OP, your Cali clips sound fantastic. This one sounds good, don't get me wrong, but it's much smoother. Gotta say one of the best Wizard clips I've heard on the web, but the Cali does it for me

It's funny, Wizards are the most raw and open/uncompressed amps out there, at least from what I've played/owned. Smooth is not the word I would use to describe the amp in the room tone. Get the volume up even at 2 and it becomes this rude pissed off animal, with/without a boost. I had a MTL 50 and a MC 100w and they were killer...not for everyone sure but for me, just the best modded Marshall type amp out there. If it wasn't for my unicorn C+ Coliseum purchase I'd still have that MC I. Rick makes amazing amps, not for the feint of heart though.

+100

Smooth... is about the last word I'd use to describe any Wizard as well. Bogner, Friedman, Soldano... yep... smooth... buttery even.

Wizards are bright, tight, edgey, with lots of upper-mid cut and bark. Not smooth. Not dark. Not compressed.

 

[braintheory]

I own a 2016 MTL and while I agree that it sounds raw, aggressive, open, bright and all that good stuff, I think the reason why some say it’s smooth and don’t care for it is because it doesn’t have as much growl or roar to it on those powerchords as most amps going for a Marshall or modded Marshall sound. A lot of the more compressed amps tend to have more texture and growl to the notes and I think some guys prefer that. I like both if they’re high quality in their execution. The Wizards are also not on their own as juicy or saturated as some other amps.

For me the thing that makes them special, which would be hard to tell from clips, is the rock solid quality each note has and their level of note definition. They also move a lot of air. My Hiwatt moves it even more, but in a more spread out way, while my MTL does in a more direct, laser-like way

 

[FourT6and2]

HNAD but to be honest the Fortin Cali and Butterslax clips you did sound much better to me. I just can’t get on board with Wizards sorry.

Agreed. OP, your Cali clips sound fantastic. This one sounds good, don't get me wrong, but it's much smoother. Gotta say one of the best Wizard clips I've heard on the web, but the Cali does it for me

It's funny, Wizards are the most raw and open/uncompressed amps out there, at least from what I've played/owned. Smooth is not the word I would use to describe the amp in the room tone. Get the volume up even at 2 and it becomes this rude pissed off animal, with/without a boost. I had a MTL 50 and a MC 100w and they were killer...not for everyone sure but for me, just the best modded Marshall type amp out there. If it wasn't for my unicorn C+ Coliseum purchase I'd still have that MC I. Rick makes amazing amps, not for the feint of heart though.

That's cool and all, but I've never heard a Wizard clip that sounded like how people describe... ever... not once... never in the history of the world. Can you point me to a recording, a song, a record, a video clip, a soundcloud clip, anything?

 

[RedPlated]

Something I remembered today while playing my 2016 MTL - if you use the loop on these amps, the send and return levels are crucial to maintain the base tone. If you switch the loop on and off and the levels aren’t adjusted properly, the amp will sound a lot different with the loop engaged.

I only run a TC Flashback delay (or an El Cap depending on the day) in the loop. I’ve found that to keep the base tone almost totally unchanged, I have to set the fx send level very high, around 3 o’clock. Return is relatively low, around 9 o’clock. I’ll sit and switch the loop on and off while playing until I hear only the most indiscernible difference.

I’ve had a few Wizards, one was a 2012 MCII. That one sounded like a Roland Cube with the loop engaged. I emailed Rick and he had me clip a capacitor from the loop circuit which fixed the issue. Haven’t had that problem on the three 2016’s that I’ve had.