VERTEX - Henry Kaiser Pedalboard #2

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That board is SICK!!!!! Love the clean boards.




No comment on Kaiser. :gay:
 
mentoneman":2kjg7vfv said:


basically sums it up right there

How can one go from playing that to playing nice stuff like this (volume is really low)



It's obvious the man can play. Regardless of inheritance.

But some of the things he comes out with... I think it's the first time that I have ever heard something where I couldn't appreciate it on any level.
:confused:

As long as he enjoys himself.

Nice board, anyway!
 
If he's a genius, then I guess I don't get it. Cool board though.
 
That dude has got to have a bottomless pit of cash.
 
mentoneman":1gmlwbok said:
too bad these guys didn't link up with kaiser for a sort of super trio ala dimeola/delucia/mclaughlin,



...minus sanity or any intrinsic marketable worth whatsoever...



looks like avatar needs to lay off the angel dust and peyote cupcakes.

This is my all time favorite guitar clip. :rock:
 
mentoneman":18fqx051 said:
too bad these guys didn't link up with kaiser for a sort of super trio ala dimeola/delucia/mclaughlin,



...minus sanity or any intrinsic marketable worth whatsoever...



looks like avatar needs to lay off the angel dust and peyote cupcakes.


I've scratched my head over Bailey for years...but this one with the "dancer"......Good Lord... :no:
 
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.
 
Newbie Brad":2uh81hcz said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?
 
kasperjensen":16h98t1u said:
mentoneman":16h98t1u said:


basically sums it up right there

How can one go from playing that to playing nice stuff like this (volume is really low)



It's obvious the man can play. Regardless of inheritance.

But some of the things he comes out with... I think it's the first time that I have ever heard something where I couldn't appreciate it on any level.
:confused:

As long as he enjoys himself.

Nice board, anyway!

That's the first time I've heard him play anything without it sounding like retarded drunken martians having an orgy! That was pretty cool.
 
Jordon":pf6ph80m said:
Newbie Brad":pf6ph80m said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.
 
Newbie Brad":127990xc said:
Jordon":127990xc said:
Newbie Brad":127990xc said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.

No, no. I understood the words. It was the thoughts they represented that didn't make much sense. Derek Bailey wrote the book on improvisation (I'll ignore the all-too-common misuse of the word "literally")? If all it takes is playing gibberish notes and noises with no sense of melody or timing to be a "great avant garde improv musician," then I should be heralded as a god. That, or I'm wasting my time writing music people actually want to hear.
 
Ah yes...another go around of Rig-Talk moaning about Bailey and Kaiser....
Sweet, some facts...Kaiser and Bailey have played together. Kaiser is a big fan of Bailey. And Henry sure as fuck can play conventionally. Just happened to chooses not to.
Some samples...
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Yo-Mile ... hLk-_-10:1

As for the trust fund think...as far as I know Henry actually turned down the family money.
 
Jordon":2kcazvaa said:
Newbie Brad":2kcazvaa said:
Jordon":2kcazvaa said:
Newbie Brad":2kcazvaa said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.

No, no. I understood the words. It was the thoughts they represented that didn't make much sense. Derek Bailey wrote the book on improvisation (I'll ignore the all-too-common misuse of the word "literally")? If all it takes is playing gibberish notes and noises with no sense of melody or timing to be a "great avant garde improv musician," then I should be heralded as a god. That, or I'm wasting my time writing music people actually want to hear.
Uhem...yeah...just because its something that isn't up th combined Rig_talk alley doesn't mean it isn't so. Just like many think John Cage is the emperors new cloth. As for "wasting your time writing music people want to hear" lets see where your at in 20 years.
 
degenaro":14j49h9k said:
Jordon":14j49h9k said:
Newbie Brad":14j49h9k said:
Jordon":14j49h9k said:
Newbie Brad":14j49h9k said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.

No, no. I understood the words. It was the thoughts they represented that didn't make much sense. Derek Bailey wrote the book on improvisation (I'll ignore the all-too-common misuse of the word "literally")? If all it takes is playing gibberish notes and noises with no sense of melody or timing to be a "great avant garde improv musician," then I should be heralded as a god. That, or I'm wasting my time writing music people actually want to hear.
Uhem...yeah...just because its something that isn't up th combined Rig_talk alley doesn't mean it isn't so. Just like many think John Cage is the emperors new cloth. As for "wasting your time writing music people want to hear" lets see where your at in 20 years.

Ed, you're the last person on the planet I'd want to get into a disagreement with on things, so I'll respectfully back out of this one.
 
Jordon":2gam1zyo said:
degenaro":2gam1zyo said:
Jordon":2gam1zyo said:
Newbie Brad":2gam1zyo said:
Jordon":2gam1zyo said:
Newbie Brad":2gam1zyo said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.

No, no. I understood the words. It was the thoughts they represented that didn't make much sense. Derek Bailey wrote the book on improvisation (I'll ignore the all-too-common misuse of the word "literally")? If all it takes is playing gibberish notes and noises with no sense of melody or timing to be a "great avant garde improv musician," then I should be heralded as a god. That, or I'm wasting my time writing music people actually want to hear.
Uhem...yeah...just because its something that isn't up th combined Rig_talk alley doesn't mean it isn't so. Just like many think John Cage is the emperors new cloth. As for "wasting your time writing music people want to hear" lets see where your at in 20 years.

Ed, you're the last person on the planet I'd want to get into a disagreement with on things, so I'll respectfully back out of this one.
Why? A friendly disagreement is all good...
 
degenaro":1kzm3vfy said:
Jordon":1kzm3vfy said:
degenaro":1kzm3vfy said:
Jordon":1kzm3vfy said:
Newbie Brad":1kzm3vfy said:
Jordon":1kzm3vfy said:
Newbie Brad":1kzm3vfy said:
I really enjoy Derek Bailey's music, and he literally wrote the book on improvisation. For any who do also, might like to read Kaiser's interviews of Bailey in 1975 and 1987, or to listen to the duets they created, use your Google-words. Bailey was best known for a 175 and a volume pedal but used many setups. And sometimes prepared his guitars. Bailey's recordings and Kaiser's too are easy to find.

You're aware that nearly everything you just said made zero sense, right?

If you read this entire thread, and then my post, and you still find my post incomprehensible, then I apologise. We probably have a cultural difference that makes it hard for us to communicate.

No, no. I understood the words. It was the thoughts they represented that didn't make much sense. Derek Bailey wrote the book on improvisation (I'll ignore the all-too-common misuse of the word "literally")? If all it takes is playing gibberish notes and noises with no sense of melody or timing to be a "great avant garde improv musician," then I should be heralded as a god. That, or I'm wasting my time writing music people actually want to hear.
Uhem...yeah...just because its something that isn't up th combined Rig_talk alley doesn't mean it isn't so. Just like many think John Cage is the emperors new cloth. As for "wasting your time writing music people want to hear" lets see where your at in 20 years.

Ed, you're the last person on the planet I'd want to get into a disagreement with on things, so I'll respectfully back out of this one.
Why? A friendly disagreement is all good...

True, but you're right. No reason to derail the thread any more than it already has been. I'm just in the position where I cannot fathom calling Bailey's stuff "music." Kaiser, well, I've actually heard some of his stuff that didn't sound like garbage, so I can get that. I just cannot understand getting enjoyment out of Bailey's stuff (that I've heard), and I don't think I ever will.

And I also don't want things to turn into a pissing contest of "I've done this and that."
 
Nothing wrong with debating Ed, took some beatings but learned a ton.

Take the grumpy bitch on I say :thumbsup:
 
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