VH Soundcheck...Wolfgang can sing!

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I really dig the new album,even if things were good between Michael and eddie,I would chose my kid anyday,just sayin :rock:
 
You know, Mike gets a lot of credits for those vocal harmonys, but I think people give too much credit for them. Mike does have the unique quality to his voice but it isn't going to make or break the song. I know I'll get slammed for this but, if you can sing harmony it isn't that hard. And, I think the harmonies sound similer to the old ones on the new album.
 
Schaf":awgs9eqk said:
You know, Mike gets a lot of credits for those vocal harmonys, but I think people give too much credit for them. Mike does have the unique quality to his voice but it isn't going to make or break the song. I know I'll get slammed for this but, if you can sing harmony it isn't that hard. And, I think the harmonies sound similer to the old ones on the new album.
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I completely agree - when people talk about the VH harmonies, what they are hearing are Mike and Ed's parts together, and PITCH is the important part, not so much the character of the voice. Wolf is hitting the pitches, and sounds great.
 
Schaf":qzr770u2 said:
You know, Mike gets a lot of credits for those vocal harmonys, but I think people give too much credit for them. Mike does have the unique quality to his voice but it isn't going to make or break the song. I know I'll get slammed for this but, if you can sing harmony it isn't that hard. And, I think the harmonies sound similer to the old ones on the new album.
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Nobody, or very few, gave a shit about MA until he wasn't part of the reunion.

Him not being in VH has made more popular than he ever was and it seems to have nothing to do with his abilities.
 
Sounds like Wolf should be singing lead, 'cause Dave's been terrible.
 
jmgman69":3a2r1mw5 said:
I really dig the new album,even if things were good between Michael and eddie,I would chose my kid anyday,just sayin :rock:
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This statement is dead on imo, I really like the new music and this might kind of contradict that statement but Wolfgangs singing in this soundcheck is nothing special, kind of average.
 
Axisman5150":2v0t0s1d said:
Sounds like Wolf should be singing lead, 'cause Dave's been terrible.
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Wolf does a great job and I've heard Dave sound pretty off in some Youtube clips but when I saw them in Nashville Dave sounded better. Honestly though I don't think Wolf at this stage in the game could be the front man Dave is even though he sings better.

The Nashville concert was the best VH concert I've ever been to. They may not jump around as much as they did back in the day but musically they freaking killed it. They smoked any of the times I saw them with Sammy and I like some of the Sammy era stuff.
 
I'm going June 1st...actually looking forward to the show :rock:
 
Rezamatix":1qaflmqg said:
It is VAN HALEN after all...he has got good genes..
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Eagle Eye Cherry had good genes as well...just sayin' ;)

The new VH is awesome. Wolfie kills it live...he didn't miss a thing, and the band doesn't miss MA's vocals in the least. I would love to see him back in the band but I completely understand why he's not and I don't have any issues with it whatsoever.
 
Schaf":2m12mz7r said:
You know, Mike gets a lot of credits for those vocal harmonys, but I think people give too much credit for them. Mike does have the unique quality to his voice but it isn't going to make or break the song. I know I'll get slammed for this but, if you can sing harmony it isn't that hard. And, I think the harmonies sound similer to the old ones on the new album.
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Man, I have ALWAYS thought this! Like any background singer is somehow unreplaceable.
 
squank":2y0fgp5s said:
Man, I have ALWAYS thought this! Like any background singer is somehow unreplaceable.
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It seems the concept of timbre is lost on some. One could say the same thing about <enter your favorite amp tone>. Any amp could replace it.

The fact of the matter is Mike's timbre and range has been a main staple of the VH sound for eons. Sure, he can (and has) be replaced but it's almost certainly going to sound different. Whether or not that matters to the individual is the real question.
 
Rogue":cz7ayfmw said:
Schaf":cz7ayfmw said:
You know, Mike gets a lot of credits for those vocal harmonys, but I think people give too much credit for them. Mike does have the unique quality to his voice but it isn't going to make or break the song. I know I'll get slammed for this but, if you can sing harmony it isn't that hard. And, I think the harmonies sound similer to the old ones on the new album.
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Nobody, or very few, gave a shit about MA until he wasn't part of the reunion.

Him not being in VH has made more popular than he ever was and it seems to have nothing to do with his abilities.
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HAHAHAH tru
 
Bob Savage":1nxy54nd said:
squank":1nxy54nd said:
Man, I have ALWAYS thought this! Like any background singer is somehow unreplaceable.
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It seems the concept of timbre is lost on some. One could say the same thing about <enter your favorite amp tone>. Any amp could replace it.

The fact of the matter is Mike's timbre and range has been a main staple of the VH sound for eons. Sure, he can (and has) be replaced but it's almost certainly going to sound different. Whether or not that matters to the individual is the real question.
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It's not lost on me at all. But I dismiss it based on several factors.

I'm a vocalist, in addition to being a guitarist, and I'm pretty aware of vocal tone/timbre/quality. As long as somebody else can sing the same note MA was singing live, the perceived difference, even to the discriminating ear, will be negligible.

Ironically, it is precisely due to the high range MA uses that makes his background vocals easier to replace. If he was doing something a la Layne and Jerry's harmonies in AIC, a replacement would be more noticeable.
 
squank":3qttnlvd said:
It's not lost on me at all. But I dismiss it based on several factors.

I'm a vocalist, in addition to being a guitarist, and I'm pretty aware of vocal tone/timbre/quality. As long as somebody else can sing the same note MA was singing live, the perceived difference, even to the discriminating ear, will be negligible.

Ironically, it is precisely due to the high range MA uses that makes his background vocals easier to replace. If he was doing something a la Layne and Jerry's harmonies in AIC, a replacement would be more noticeable.
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Interesting. I'm not a singer but my ears treat me fairly well and I absolutely hear something missing with Wolfgang, despite him hitting many of the high notes.

Same goes for Greg Rollie in Journey. He wasn't doing anything spectacular range wise but when his backups were replaced with Cain's, there was a void.
 
Bob Savage":36jq0a1q said:
squank":36jq0a1q said:
It's not lost on me at all. But I dismiss it based on several factors.

I'm a vocalist, in addition to being a guitarist, and I'm pretty aware of vocal tone/timbre/quality. As long as somebody else can sing the same note MA was singing live, the perceived difference, even to the discriminating ear, will be negligible.

Ironically, it is precisely due to the high range MA uses that makes his background vocals easier to replace. If he was doing something a la Layne and Jerry's harmonies in AIC, a replacement would be more noticeable.
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Interesting. I'm not a singer but my ears treat me fairly well and I absolutely hear something missing with Wolfgang, despite him hitting many of the high notes.

Same goes for Greg Rollie in Journey. He wasn't doing anything spectacular range wise but when his backups were replaced with Cain's, there was a void.
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I'm totally with you on Rollie's vocals. He had a very distinct voice, and though the 'new' Journey was musically better, the background vocals were never as good. Even though it spelled the end of Rollie in the band, I enjoyed the transition album with him and Steve sharing lead vocals, especially "Just The Same Way."
 
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