VHT/Fryette

[yngzaklynch]

Sounds fantastic to my ears. Not sure how the gain compares to my 5150 but sounds really aggressive. I've owned so many amps and sold almost all of them within six months. This is why i'm eyeing up Fryette, Diezel and CAA. Never owned any of them. Played models from each. Very impressed with all of them. Fryette might be a little more up my ally as they are bright and focused without being thin or shrill. Plus they are super cheap used.

 

[JerEvil]

Sounds fantastic to my ears. Not sure how the gain compares to my 5150 but sounds really aggressive. I've owned so many amps and sold almost all of them within six months. This is why i'm eyeing up Fryette, Diezel and CAA. Never owned any of them. Played models from each. Very impressed with all of them. Fryette might be a little more up my ally as they are bright and focused without being thin or shrill. Plus they are super cheap used.

I regret whole heartedly my decision trading my Sig for a "custom" built amp over 2 years ago. Was my all-time favorite amp until getting my Quick Rod. When I finally get said :custom" amp, it will be used to fund either a KT88 loaded Nitro or Sig: X

 

[yngzaklynch]

Jer have you ever played the UL or CLX?

 

[yngzaklynch]

Bob what made you choose the D60 over the UL

 

[Bob Savage]

Bob what made you choose the D60 over the UL

Besides smelling nicer, it whispered to me in a way no other amp has.

 

[Bob Savage]

MAN I'm on a ROLL in this thread!

I had some preconceived notions about the UL when I bought it, mostly based on clips I'd heard. Between my playing style and guitars I was using at the time I just couldn't pull what I wanted out of it. The D60 also doesn't sound like what I wanted from the UL, however, I fell in love with it because it just clicks with me. You have to work for what you get out of it, but I'm fine with that.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Are we talking about your woman or your amp lol. The Sig X seems to get compared to the Deliverance a lot of the Fryette forum it seems

 

[JerEvil]

Are we talking about your woman or your amp lol. The Sig X seems to get compared to the Deliverance a lot of the Fryette forum it seems

They are very similar. My Sig X could get me about 95% there as far as the tone of my D120. I actually preferred the heavy tones out of the D120 but the Sig just has way more functionality (for those who need it).

If you like the Deliverance but need a clean channel, the Sig is your amp.

I used an Ultralead for the leads on one of my older cd's and it was great. All the rhythms were tracked by our other guitar player using an Engl Fireball. Wish we used the UL personally for the whole thing.

 

[PeteLaramee]

I had a sig and a few ULs. Sig had better cleans, but I liked the ULs much better. I liked the idea of the voicing control, but if it wasn't tied to the gain I'd still have it. I'm still waiting to try a CLX.

I also thought the UL was as aggressive as the 5153.

 

[yngzaklynch]

I had a sig and a few ULs. Sig had better cleans, but I liked the ULs much better. I liked the idea of the voicing control, but if it wasn't tied to the gain I'd still have it. I'm still waiting to try a CLX.

I also thought the UL was as aggressive as the 5153.

The UL I played smoked the 5153s tone IMO. But thats just my preference. I simply couldn't gel with the 5153.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Are we talking about your woman or your amp lol. The Sig X seems to get compared to the Deliverance a lot of the Fryette forum it seems

They are very similar. My Sig X could get me about 95% there as far as the tone of my D120. I actually preferred the heavy tones out of the D120 but the Sig just has way more functionality (for those who need it).

If you like the Deliverance but need a clean channel, the Sig is your amp.

I used an Ultralead for the leads on one of my older cd's and it was great. All the rhythms were tracked by our other guitar player using an Engl Fireball. Wish we used the UL personally for the whole thing.

So you prefer the Sig X to the UL?

 

[GuitarGoat]

Strange i compared a VHT UL to my modded 5150 and thought it was every bit as aggressive. So maybe the UL is more aggressive than the Sig X ???

I'm not sure. In my setup the Sig:X just seems a little smoother, but you can bring the presence or treble up to get a little more bite on the high end. The Gain I control also changes the voicing of the amp, so if you keep that one lower and then use more of the Gain II control which is Saturation, that could give it a little more bite. I like setting the Gain I a little over halfway and its a bit thicker sounding then bring the Gain II up to about the same for a little more gain. The possibilities are pretty endless though. The only issue I could see would be if you like the tone with the Gain I control too low you might not be able to get obscene amounts of gain.

 

[dirtyfunkg]

I've owned all of the following, so take my opinion with a grain of salt: 2011 UL, 1993 Classic, D120, D60, Sig:X. I listed the years for the first two because I know there have been some revisions.

In order here's how I'd rank them for my purposes:
1) Sig:X
2) Classic
3) UL
4) D120
5) D60

Since you asked just about the Sig:X as compared to the UL and Deliverance...

The Sig:X is the most versatile and has the best clean channel. Rhythm and Lead channels are still very good--this amp's distortion channels fall somewhere right in the middle of the CLX/Classic, UL, and D60. You can really sing with this amp and it's not as dry as the UL, but it doesn't cut as hard as the CLX/Classic. The Clean channel makes this my favorite Fryette amp though. You can really use it like a non master volume amp, and I could see recording with just this channel for a lot of stuff. This channel is what gave me the warm and fuzzies and made it clear that I wasn't walking out of the store without that amp. The only other two amps that have ever made me do that were the Bogner 101B (which I just couldn't afford anyways, so meh) and the Pittbull Classic I still use. and eventually plan to build a head cab for and use as a head on my Fatbottom.

The Deliverance is one of the best single channel amps I've ever used. It's biggest competitor in that regard is D13 which I think I actually preferred, but they're different. The D120 and D60 definitely have different characters. I preferred the D60 for single coils and/or more rock and hard rock and D120 for humbuckers and more aggressive sounds. Either amp can get clean but it's not a "true" clean to me. There's still a little grit, which I'm okay with. Single coils on the D60 really got me into Blood Sugar RHCP and Hendrix land. I could get VHII type sounds out of either amp with a humbucker. To me, the D120 is everything the Peavey 5150/6505 wants to be.

The UL, frankly, was my least favorite of the VHT's. Great amp, but I guess there's a reason you'll rarely see it outside of a heavy music context. The cleans were almost too hi-fi, and the distortion didn't bloom like the other amps. This amp is GREAT for metal and I can definitely understand why Page Hamilton would use this amp. It just wasn't my cup of tea, which isn't to say I didn't like it (I liked it a lot!) but is to say that, among the Fryette amps, this one is the only one that didn't put a huge smile on my face. I don't have a heavy picking hand though I can get there when necessary. That said, I never got to use it with a Fatbottom cab, and I hear that can be a big difference. The reason I ranked it ahead of the Deliverances above is because channel switching is necessary for me.

 

[moronmountain]

Seriously no Sig X owners out there? Tell me about the Sig X

I've got a Sig:X but I don't have enough experience with the other Fryette amps to comment. Sorry...

Pros and cons of the Sig X? Seems like an incredibly versatile amp with a ripping high gain tone

Yea, it's awesome. Clean channel is awesome and I set my rhythm channel up to be similar to the clean channel, but with a hint of breakup and a little more cut. The rhythm and lead channels can be set up any way from nice cleans to an awesome high gain tone. The only cons I can really think of is that the high gain tones, while being versatile, still won't get you the hugeness of a Recto or the aggressiveness of a 5150...but that's really just that it's got it's own thing going on. It would be the only amp I own if it could do that, but I've still got other amps around like a Recto and 5150...just my two cents.

Interesting take. I find my UL to be way more "huge" than a Recto, and more aggressive than a 5150. I'm not one to associate huge or aggressive with pre amp saturation however. Also, the UL is pretty particular about your pick attack as well, and I have a heavy picking hand, so I guess it suits my style. For reference, I owned a first run Uberschall with a metal grill. I went through a divorce and had to sell one of my amps so I could move quickly. Selling the Uber instead of the UL was a quick and easy decision for me, and I loved many things about the Uber. It had WAY more pre amp distortion than the UL, but IMO was no where near as punchy, focussed, and angry sounding to me, and I considered my Uber to be bigger/meaner than a Recto as well. JMO

 

[yngzaklynch]

Dirtyfunkg i'm still not completely clear on your experience with the Sig X's higher gain tones. So let me ask this... Does the Sig X have as much gain as a 5150? Bogner Uberschall? XTC? SLO? Recto? JCM 800?

 

[Mailman1971]

Morning bump

A bump with a lump not a hump with a bump.

That would be a hill.

 

[Ventura]

Morning bump

A bump with a lump not a hump with a bump.

That would be a hill.

This thread sounds more like a Dr. Seuss story than it does the comparo between 2 amps.

Where's Stephen in all this??!!?! He's our in house/resident Fryette cat, no?

 

[Bob Savage]

This thread sounds more like a Dr. Seuss story than it does the comparo between 2 amps.

Where's Stephen in all this??!!?! He's our in house/resident Fryette cat, no?

A thread with a head could be lead to a dread or astray for a day but it may stay that way.

 

[Kelly]

The Deliverance is one of the best single channel amps I've ever used. It's biggest competitor in that regard is D13 which I think I actually preferred, but they're different. The D120 and D60 definitely have different characters. I preferred the D60 for single coils and/or more rock and hard rock and D120 for humbuckers and more aggressive sounds. Either amp can get clean but it's not a "true" clean to me. There's still a little grit, which I'm okay with. Single coils on the D60 really got me into Blood Sugar RHCP and Hendrix land. I could get VHII type sounds out of either amp with a humbucker. To me, the D120 is everything the Peavey 5150/6505 wants to be.

I haven't had problems dialing in "true" cleans on the Deliverance 60...

 

[yngzaklynch]

Kelly those are cool clips. Got any heavy clips of the Deliverance