VHT /Fryette

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boltzthrower":30w8p3z4 said:
vchizzle":30w8p3z4 said:
VHT was more elusive, no one REALLY knew what it stood for.

Valve Harmonics Technology

It's printed on the back of my 2150.

Not Quite: Voluptuous Hog Tramp

14. “What does VHT stand for?”

VHT founder Steven Fryette moved to Los Angeles from Seattle in 1976. After a few years playing guitar in Southern California cover bands he began focusing on original material and needed a day job to pay the bills. With an innate ability to tinker and coax broken things back to useful life, Steve eventually landed a job doing amplifier repairs and modifications at Valley Arts Guitars, then the epicenter of groundbreaking custom guitar and amp activity in LA. While at Valley Arts, Steve honed his skills doing repairs, modifications and custom work for the likes of Eddie Van Halen, Steve Lukather, Larry Carlton, Tommy Tedesco, Ry Cooder, Buzzy Fieten, Carlos Rios, Duane Eddy, and many other legendary players. Pretty soon his experience in finding innovative solutions for guitarists led him to try out some of his own ideas in guitar amplification.

After several years of building experimental prototypes, Steve decided to go live. Thus began the search for a suitable company name.

“Outside of my circle of friends and clients, I wondered how much sense it made to put my name on the front of an amplifier. Something about that struck me as arrogant or presumptuous, as in “who’s this guy?” I decided to try a pseudonym first. If I failed to come up with something suitable, I’d go with my family name.

I worked on it for weeks…reading, researching; drawing…it reminded me of my days sitting in the back of the class in grade school drawing pictures of drums and guitars. It was also just like trying to name a band – everything I could come up with seemed to have been taken and everyone I discussed it with offered the usual predictably useless suggestions.”

Steve worked tirelessly on this project while developing the prototype 2150 power amp and preparing for the first production run. Time for coming up with a brand name was running out.

“One day a factory rep from TC Electronics visited Valley Arts to demonstrate a new TC product. I was intrigued with the product, but much more interested in the name. I asked the rep what TC stood for. In his thick Danish accent he replied “It stahnds for nussing rilly. It just feelz goot to say in ze mouse.” That was a watershed moment for me. I went back home and began putting letters together that I thought sounded good. It was just as frustrating an effort as what I had been doing already, but I had a renewed enthusiasm for it.

I read where David Byrne of Talking Heads had cut words out of magazines and scrambled them to create song lyrics. I tried that with letters and made a chart of combinations that “felt good to say in the mouth”. Eventually I settled on VHT.”

With the help of some friends in the graphics business, Steve tried various logo ideas. Nothing clicked. He realized there were too many cooks advising him on what a professional logo should look like and went off on his own, eventually settling on a homemade font style using raised letters with a shadow supposedly representing light coming from a sharp angle. It was a very complex logo design.

“It only looked right at a certain height to width ratio. If you messed with that ratio even a little bit, it looked awful.”

His graphics buddies commented that the “light” was all wrong. Steve didn’t care. Once he got the ratio right, he liked the way it looked and besides, time had run out.

“Once I had the logo I soon realized I was going to find myself in the same spot as the TC rep. What does it stand for? I didn’t like that TC “stood for nothing” It must stand for something. I started trying to attach meaning to the letters – an endeavor even more frustrating than coming up with the letters in the first place. Vintage High Tech, Valve Harmonics Technology, Very Heavy Tone. They all sounded stupid and contrived and I realized that this was because it was contrived – so obviously after the fact.”

Larry Latham, a fellow employee at Valley Arts jokingly suggested Valley Heroin Transport

“It was brilliant. I knew it wouldn’t fly in the long run, but it was a signpost – a way forward. I could make a joke of it. I have a terribly sarcastic streak and the idea of making fun of myself was appealing. I went back to the task of finding the right keyword and eventually it came: Voluptuous. It jumped right out at me. I then remembered my fondness for 60s underground comics- Zap Comics in particular - and a gruesomely funny motorcycle gang; the Hog Riding Fools created by the great S. Clay Wilson. One of the characters was a mammoth biker mama riding on the back of a chopped Harley. She had a black scar on the inside of her thigh where she got burned by hot motor oil. “Burnt the livin’ piss outa me and I didn’t even blink” she grinned. In the next frame appeared a crosseyed top heavy biker chick. She was perfect; a Voluptuous Hog Tramp. My work was done.”
 
espquade":1hokkxcc said:
Hard&Heavy":1hokkxcc said:
espquade":1hokkxcc said:
Having owned almost all the VHT line
I would say the CLX was my favorite with the D 120 second , but I also will add that it is crucial that you play these amps with VHT cabs , as other cabs made a real big difference and in a bad way , so not only will i need the CLX but I will have to get a Deliverance 4x12 cab....

It's already starting to add up isn't it :doh: :D

I talked to steve at vht when it was still vht and he said that the phat bottom cabs worked best with the clx,but I never got to try one out. Plus I was really happy how it worked with the diezel cabs,plus the vht cabs are frontloaded to.

Well the funny thing is that at one time not that long ago VHT and Diezel cabs were made by the same company right there in Cali . I forgot the name , but I was told this and if I remember also Bogner cabs .

Diezel now makes their own , but before that they were made at the same place , so I bet their were very close tonal similarities between the 2

You are right they were all made by the same company.
 
I had a 50CL head with a 412 fatbottom cab for a while and then sold it to a RT member. That was a cool amp. To this day I am looking for the right craigslist find for an Ultra Lead/fatbottom half stack.
 
Hard&Heavy":28y7wguj said:
espquade":28y7wguj said:
Hard&Heavy":28y7wguj said:
espquade":28y7wguj said:
Having owned almost all the VHT line
I would say the CLX was my favorite with the D 120 second , but I also will add that it is crucial that you play these amps with VHT cabs , as other cabs made a real big difference and in a bad way , so not only will i need the CLX but I will have to get a Deliverance 4x12 cab....

It's already starting to add up isn't it :doh: :D

I talked to steve at vht when it was still vht and he said that the phat bottom cabs worked best with the clx,but I never got to try one out. Plus I was really happy how it worked with the diezel cabs,plus the vht cabs are frontloaded to.

Well the funny thing is that at one time not that long ago VHT and Diezel cabs were made by the same company right there in Cali . I forgot the name , but I was told this and if I remember also Bogner cabs .

Diezel now makes their own , but before that they were made at the same place , so I bet their were very close tonal similarities between the 2

You are right they were all made by the same company.

From what I understand they make / made cabs for a lot of company's and pretty much all the same cab. I think it is the combination of the speaker and cab that really makes the sound.

I did some side by side of my cabs (variety of Celestions) with the Fryette cabs about two years ago ..... I was able to make them all sound good and see this as more a matter of taste. The Fryette cabs sound great but I did not think it was enough difference for me.
 
Funny, I just bought a CL50 yesterday (see my other thread). The change from VHT to Fryette was not smooth from what I understand. For my local market (the Netherlands) they changed to a different distributor in another country (Germany) just like that. No local representative is in general bad for sales. Perhaps they figure something out for this, time will tell. In the meantime I have the impression that VHT is putting more effort into marketing, whereas Fryette is perhaps doing some shows here and there but is relatively quiet on that front (in the Netherlands/Europe). IMO they have to get smarter in advertising.
 
The thing is there is only a few amp maker that sell a lot of amps .... Fender, Marshall, Mesa, etc. All the rest of them have a very small market. When you see any new model come out by these small guys the release sale peaks out at about 150 amps. After that release the sales and hype goes down very fast. Not many amps by any of these people goes into the thousands ever. Last I heard Fender makes about 700 amps a day, Marshall ~ 200, Mesa ~ 15, etc.

For all the smaller guys advertising is very expensive .... check out how much a full page ad in Guitar Player cost. It is a lot more than you may guess. A lot more.

Just like the rest of the world a few names own everything. Most people who play the guitar have never played on a lot of amps we talk about or even heard of them.

I changed the logo on my Sig X to Fryette from VHT. The comments I got were ....
"Well at least I can read that" and "Did you get a new amp ?"

Some people think the H in VHT is {=} for some reason ? Well the V and T are unknown symbols ?
 
There is no other amp maker out there that has heads that require the matching cab more than VHT's. With the pittbulls you've got to have a fatbottom cab for it to have that trademark in your face surgically tight Steve Fryette tone. When I had my 50CL and FB412, either one sounded sub par with anything else.
 
espquade":2mbe7pvs said:
Having owned almost all the VHT line
I would say the CLX was my favorite with the D 120 second , but I also will add that it is crucial that you play these amps with VHT cabs , as other cabs made a real big difference and in a bad way , so not only will i need the CLX but I will have to get a Deliverance 4x12 cab....

It's already starting to add up isn't it :doh: :D

Ive played almost every single VHT head out there and I agree with this.. The CLX is amazing. Also the heads can sound pretty good through other cabs but they sound AMAZING through a VHT cab. They really put some time into making these cabs match the heads unlike other companies who just take a speaker thats already out there and throw it in a cab.
 
I have never played a VHT, but from the descriptions I have read for years, I dont really want to. The dry tone just doesnt sound like it is for me.

idk? :confused:
 
Shask":3m5477r0 said:
I have never played a VHT, but from the descriptions I have read for years, I dont really want to. The dry tone just doesnt sound like it is for me.

idk? :confused:

If you dont like a dry tone you wont like it.. Here is a video of me playing my CLX.

 
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