What y'all using for DI / cab emulation?

[billsbigego]

Had a Radial JDX. Was great, sounded awesome for recording. Sold it as I needed money at the time.
FF to 2014. Wanted something to do recording with. I have cats, kids, wife, tv. NOISE.

So a mic is not an option. So I had a Mesa Cab Clone and the reason I bought it was for the load box part. Silent recording sounded cool.
However, without a cab connected, the thing sucked. So I got rid of it.

I'm figuring that there is no silent recording DI Box that sounds good unless it has a load attached (speaker, that is).

So I'm looking for another one. Radial is out for me at the moment as I don't have the cash. But I've got around $100 to spend.
I've been looking at

A/DA GCS-2
https://www.amazon.com/DA-GCS-2-Cabinet- ... merReviews

and

H+K Redbox 5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hughes-Kettner- ... 3cdf0de298

 

[billsbigego]

Come on ya pricks

 

[Blix]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

 

[billsbigego]

This was recorded using Bias. Don't know if it the tone sounds good.

http://www.reverbnation.com/federalhog/ ... n-that-box

 

[chumbucket]

I haven't seen that new Red Box yet but I've used the Red Box Pro for a long time and it's got a decent sound. I thought the Cabclone did sound better but that was only while using it plugged into a cab for a reactive load. This Behringer unit sounds good but needs a battery or phantom power. Best bang for the buck. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...e=&network=g&gclid=CJi3gf7O68ICFSyZMgod5FEAnA
I also want to check out one of the units from Randall Aiken. https://www.aikenamps.com/amporium/index.php?id_product=5&controller=product

 

[billsbigego]

Yeah, that is why I got rid of the cab clone. Silent recording is a farse with a tube head. Give it another 50 years.

 

[Blix]

Yeah, that is why I got rid of the cab clone. Silent recording is a farse with a tube head. Give it another 50 years.

Nah, you just need to try the good stuff!

 

[Bronco]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

Blix your plexi / classic EVH clips are amazing What IRs are you using with your Torpedo to emulate what your real speakers / cabs are? Are you using the SM 57 as well?

 

[billsbigego]

Yeah, that is why I got rid of the cab clone. Silent recording is a farse with a tube head. Give it another 50 years.

Nah, you just need to try the good stuff!

Well, what is good, that will allow me to get my MK V direct to my DAW interface without a speaker load attached?

 

[billsbigego]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

So you are saying use the send from the MK V loop to the interface and use IR's ?

 

[Bronco]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

So you are saying use the send from the MK V loop to the interface and use IR's ?

If you can load your amp down, then yes that will work. Otherwise, you'll need to simulate a power amp as well...there are plugins for that, however.

You don't need a Two Notes torpedo to run IRs...you can get free plug ins for your DAW like LA Convolver, which will allow you to load IRs (and there are plenty of free IRs out there). If you can't load your amp down, then look for a power amp sim as well for your DAW.

 

[billsbigego]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

So you are saying use the send from the MK V loop to the interface and use IR's ?

If you can load your amp down, then yes that will work. Otherwise, you'll need to simulate a power amp as well...there are plugins for that, however.

You don't need a Two Notes torpedo to run IRs...you can get free plug ins for your DAW like LA Convolver, which will allow you to load IRs (and there are plenty of free IRs out there). If you can't load your amp down, then look for a power amp sim as well for your DAW.

Yep, I have several IR loaders that I use. I also use this and a couple others that sound killer in conjunction with IR's

 

[Bronco]

Tried just recording with IR's from a line out or even your preamp send if you got a loop?

I'm using a Torpedo Reload with their WOS III software and it sounds killer, but that's a tad over your budget.

So you are saying use the send from the MK V loop to the interface and use IR's ?

If you can load your amp down, then yes that will work. Otherwise, you'll need to simulate a power amp as well...there are plugins for that, however.

You don't need a Two Notes torpedo to run IRs...you can get free plug ins for your DAW like LA Convolver, which will allow you to load IRs (and there are plenty of free IRs out there). If you can't load your amp down, then look for a power amp sim as well for your DAW.

Yep, I have several IR loaders that I use. I also use this and a couple others that sound killer in conjunction with IR's

Perfect...yeah man, just go line out / loop out (make sure you have a cab plugged in though or are loading it), run it into the daw and add that power amp and the cab/speaker/mic IR...done!

You just need to download LA Convolver (which is free) and head over to Redwirez and Ownhammer and look for some free cabinet sims.

 

[rcm78]

Yeah, that is why I got rid of the cab clone. Silent recording is a farse with a tube head. Give it another 50 years.

Nah, you just need to try the good stuff!

Well, what is good, that will allow me to get my MK V direct to my DAW interface without a speaker load attached?

Look at the Two Notes Torpedo line. Nothing is cheap though....

 

[billsbigego]

Well I have the IR loaders (5 of them) and 100's of IR's already.

I just don't really understand the concept of going from the send out of the amp. Will that give me the preamp section of the tube head? I don't know why I would go from the send > the amp sim, when I can just plug into the DAW interface input, use the amp sim and an IR.

The goal, initially was to get my amp to sound good direct to the DAW interface with some sort of box like the redbox or JDX. Since the silent recording option doesn't work too well without a load, I'm contemplating getting another box so I can record with my MKV. I realize that it wont be silent.

I already know the JDX sounds great, I just don't know much about the Red Box or the other ones. I'm probably going to try the ADA. That seems like the latest in this price range.

 

[ibenhad]

Radial ProRMP™ Reamp and the Eleven Rack which works surprisingly well.

 

[xzyryabx]

Well I have the IR loaders (5 of them) and 100's of IR's already.

I just don't really understand the concept of going from the send out of the amp. Will that give me the preamp section of the tube head? I don't know why I would go from the send > the amp sim, when I can just plug into the DAW interface input, use the amp sim and an IR.

The FX loop sits b/w the pre and power amps.
So the signal from the FX send is a pure pre-amp signal.
If you take that signal and run it into your interface w/o any IRs, you'll be getting your pre-amp sound, but it'll sound super buzzy and thin....when you run that signal through an IR in your DAW, the IR is supposed to model the sound of a power-amp, cab, and mic (not sure about the mic part); that completes the soundscape and it should sound like the signal coming out of your cab.

Personally, I've never been able to get anything sounding like my amp miced when using IRs; not sure if I'm using the wrong IR's , or layering the IR's too much or not enough....but it just doesn't sound like I imagine it should. Like you I have gotten a hold of tons of IRs, and many others have gotten pretty great tones out of them, so i must be doing something wrong....my output always sounds too dull, too sharp, too thin, or too fat!

 

[billsbigego]

Well what do you think of this tone? It's not your typical music and is more percussive in nature, I have no idea if is sounds to flat, sharp, dull, thin...

http://www.reverbnation.com/federalhog/ ... n-that-box

 

[xzyryabx]

I dig it....what was your signal chain? Eqd I'm assuming?
The rest of your songs are pretty cool as well!
Recorded in a studio right?

 

[Blix]

For the sake of this thread a threw together a few seconds of my 5150 III into the Reload. Blending two IR's, both greenbacks, one Shure SM57 and one with Royer 121

https://soundcloud.com/amund-blix/ir-test