Whats a good price on a prelawsuit PRS Singlecut?

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2001, stoptail with birds... all chromed out, with a natural top said to be in near mint condition with tags and case? Anyone know for sure? Ill scour ebay completed listings to get an idea, but want to know what you guys think it would sell for.

Thanks, Chad
 
In my opinion the pre-lawsuit thing doesn't really add much value, especially since PRS won the lawsuit and nothing was vastly changed.
 
Oh yeah... not a 10 top but a nice one. Here are some pics, and what would be top dollar going rate for this in your guys opinion?
 

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th3m1ke":3e8vgv81 said:
In my opinion the pre-lawsuit thing doesn't really add much value, especially since PRS won the lawsuit and nothing was vastly changed.

Interesting... I never knew that.
 
th3m1ke":3lyf65ku said:
In my opinion the pre-lawsuit thing doesn't really add much value, especially since PRS won the lawsuit and nothing was vastly changed.
+1. Would be a different story if they lost. I think pre-factory might have a bump in price, but they didn't have to change anything after the Gibson lawsuit, so where's the value?
 
Mint $1450 is a decent price, there should not be any mark up since you can still order them anyway you want it. There are 1000000s of them around.
 
And the guy said it was a 10 top. This top looks pretty damn nice, but there is no 10 in the upper back right of the headstock as you can see... so this isnt a 10 top, correct?

Here is another yahoo on ebay that tried to sell one of these as a 10 top for 100 bucks more, but there again, no 10 inscription on the back of the headstock in the upper right corner. I always thought thats what told everyone if its a 10 top or not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAUL-REED-SMITH ... 3a6c3a888f
 
pfapin05":3cz97uuu said:
And the guy said it was a 10 top. This top looks pretty damn nice, but there is no 10 in the upper back right of the headstock as you can see... so this isnt a 10 top, correct?

Here is another yahoo on ebay that tried to sell one of these as a 10 top for 100 bucks more, but there again, no 10 inscription on the back of the headstock in the upper right corner. I always thought thats what told everyone if its a 10 top or not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAUL-REED-SMITH ... 3a6c3a888f

the last picture has the 10 in the corner.
 
Digital Jams":5x3m30sg said:
Mint $1450 is a decent price, there should not be any mark up since you can still order them anyway you want it. There are 1000000s of them around.

I was thinking this was a pretty ok deal as long as its what he said it was... but the fact the guy said its a 10 top and sent me a picture with no 10 on the back of the headstock leads me to believe he dosent know enough, or thinks I dont know enough... I cant tell which. Hopefully if this one is a lemon when I try it out, I can get exactly what I paid into it.
 
DOH!!! Yeah, it does.

Erock":cfrd3tly said:
pfapin05":cfrd3tly said:
And the guy said it was a 10 top. This top looks pretty damn nice, but there is no 10 in the upper back right of the headstock as you can see... so this isnt a 10 top, correct?

Here is another yahoo on ebay that tried to sell one of these as a 10 top for 100 bucks more, but there again, no 10 inscription on the back of the headstock in the upper right corner. I always thought thats what told everyone if its a 10 top or not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAUL-REED-SMITH ... 3a6c3a888f

the last picture has the 10 in the corner.
 
I've owned almost 50 PRS Singlecuts. I buy and sell a lot of them used. $1,450 for a used 10 top in mint condition is a good deal. If you like it, I'd definitely go for it.
 
Problem is he said it was a 10 top, but there is no 10 in the back of the headstock... so is $1450 still a good investment idea or would I take a beating in resale... or even be able to break even?
 
pfapin05":35bhv46g said:
Problem is he said it was a 10 top, but there is no 10 in the back of the headstock... so is $1450 still a good investment idea or would I take a beating in resale... or even be able to break even?
I wouldn't say that any standard production run guitar (i.e. non-vintage or non-limited run, etc) is ever a good investment. Especially now - the market is just too fickle, and the future economic situation is too unpredictable. Having said that, you'd still probably be able to get your money out of it. Most guitarists look at the top and judge it, instead of relying on the label of 10-top. Also, natural tops aren't everywhere, so if you find somebody that likes them, you should be able to get your money back, imo. Much more important to resale is that it has bird inlays instead of moons, and that it's in great cosmetic condition.

I didn't look at the ad, but I wouldn't buy a guitar from anyone who claimed a 10-top when it wasn't clearly painted (or stamped, in the case of RW necks) on the back of the headstock. The seller is either knowingly lying to you, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. Either way, it would make me worry way too much to trust him.

The bottom line is that if it doesn't say 10-top on the back of the headstock, it's not a 10-top. Period. There are a few PRS guitars out there where the top was initially considered a 10-top, before cutting and staining, and they wrote "10-top" inside the neck pickup cavity. But at PRS, several people have to look at the top after the guitar is completely finished and agree that it's a 10 top. If not, it doesn't make the cut, and no "10" goes on the back of the headstock.
 
pfapin05":2lru084j said:
Very killer info man! Thanks for the advice.
No problem, Chad. Glad to help.

Also, there is no added value for a PRS Singlecut being "pre-Lawsuit". That only existed while the injunction existed against PRS from making any new Singlecuts. Since PRS won the lawsuit years ago, they did not have to change anything on the guitar. They have made many different versions of the Singlecut since winning the case.
 
pfapin05":2801wap6 said:
Problem is he said it was a 10 top, but there is no 10 in the back of the headstock... so is $1450 still a good investment idea or would I take a beating in resale... or even be able to break even?

Have you tried them? I actually like the 245's MUCH better, and you could grab one of those in that price range.
 
The 245's are slightly more LP'ish due to the scale length. The 250 might sound a little snappier but with high output pickups and detuned guitars, the 250's stay tight for the brutal modern stuff.
 
dang... I had no idea there were 245's and 250's. What is the difference between the two kinds? I take it mine is a 250 then?
 
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