Whats are your thoughts on warmoth bodies & necks

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I’ve been wanting a suhr for so long but of course cant afford close to the one I want so I thought maybe I can make a pretty close replica on warmoth does anyone have experience with warmoth how’s the quality and such?
Thinking a mahogany body with maple top
Maple neck with rosewood
washed black dye finish and
only one bridge humbucker instead on the set in this picture will come out around 1200$
What do you guys think?
here’s a picture to give you an idea :


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Warmoth is considered to be quality stuff by a lot of people. I've never heard any major complaints, just the occasional need for fret work on a neck, or other smaller issues. I've never used the Warmoth stuff personally, but I've done a good amount of custom/mutt builds. I've dealt with USA Custom Guitars, and Musikraft before, and I'd certainly recommend both.

However, a big thing to keep in mind with these custom builds is that there is a pretty big hit or miss factor regarding the tonal qualities of the woods that you're buying. Theres no way of knowing what one of those bodies will sound like until its bolted to a neck and strung up.

Depending on your wood working, painting, and general set-up skills, this can be a great way to go. If you've got the know-how, you can save a lot of money in labor by going this route.

I'd definitely recommend that you learn how to give a good set up, learn to dress frets, etc. if you do follow through with this. If not, be sure you have a good, trustworthy tech that you can turn to if the need does arrive.

http://www.usacustomguitars.com/
https://www.musikraft.com/?CZSESSID=lb7 ... goik3u96e7
 
Warmoth makes a great product, although fretwork finishing is almost always needed unless you go with their SS frets which I've always found to be well done. Their bodies are great and you can really fine tune what you want regarding wood type, weight, style/shape, finish, etc. Some people don't like the large electronics rout but I don't find myself staring at the back of my guitars too often so I always thought of this as a pretty petty concern.

Personally, I prefer Musikraft for necks, but the Warmoths are very close.
 
Basically, if you choose the right wood and whatnot, you can get it to *sound* close to a Suhr, if not identical.

Lets say you have a Suhr guitar, Bassswood/maple and a maple neck, rosewood board. And you have a Warmoth with the same body shape, specs, etc. And they both have Suhr pickups. Sonically, if all goes well, they'll be very similiar.

That being said, it won't *PLAY* like a Suhr at ALL, right out of the box. Warmoth necks are not "string-up and play", nor do they claim to be. I've had to do fret spot-levels on all of mine to get them playing 100%.

You should be able to clock in under $1200, but throw in an extra $100 bucks to take it to a GREAT luthier and have them do a fret job on it. THEN it'll play great.
 
Thanks for all the info i have a tech that will take care of all that stuff and im very confident in his work!
Im still debating about what wood and fret size hm....
Mahogany with maple top sounds like a good choice but i know most suhr's are alder and fret size i have no idea...
 
sebby123":rmad7drj said:
I’ve been wanting a suhr for so long but of course cant afford close to the one I want so I thought maybe I can make a pretty close replica on warmoth does anyone have experience with warmoth how’s the quality and such?
Thinking a mahogany body with maple top
Maple neck with rosewood
washed black dye finish and
only one bridge humbucker instead on the set in this picture will come out around 1200$
What do you guys think?
here’s a picture to give you an idea :

Sounds nice, but for a that or little more you could afford a used pro series. Not w/ all your options, though. Just a thought.
 
I thought about that but i cant find any under 1750$ it would be nice to be able to choose my own options though.
 
The 6150 Jumbo is a great great fret size. Nice and big, but not Ibanez-shredder extreme jumbo.
 
RockStarNick":22oyi69t said:
That being said, it won't *PLAY* like a Suhr at ALL, right out of the box. Warmoth necks are not "string-up and play", nor do they claim to be. I've had to do fret spot-levels on all of mine to get them playing 100%.

That would be my opinion - when you buy a high end instrument, there are 2-3 primary things you are paying for -
- Premium wood/finishing (like heavy quilt/flame and the skills to accentuate it)
- Top quality assembly and setup/fretwork - this is where these guys make their money - making their guitars play like butter straight out of the box.

marvcus":22oyi69t said:
Sounds nice, but for a that or little more you could afford a used pro series. Not w/ all your options, though. Just a thought.

I thought I saw those used pop up for around 1300-1400...
 
I love mine i built back in 91'. its aged a bit now and sounds even better. The neck is almost identical the EVH frankenstein guitar sellling for a gazillion dollars : ) the frets are actually bigger than a dunlop 6000, they dont make them anymore, so its a scallop feel to it, which i love. i think i payed like 600 bucks or something for everything.
 

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Nice i like the fret's on the eric johnson signature any idea what size that would be?
 
Based on the Suhrs I've tried and the Warmoth I built - save up for the Suhr. You'll even get to play it first before you buy it. Suhrs are great, Warmoths are a roll of the dice, and when it's all done you'll have spent almost as much as the Suhr anyway. My experience with Warmoth was horrible. It was a $2000 experiment that failed. No, I didn't order crazy tonewoods, just alder and maple. I could have kept trying things (after swapping tone caps, changing the elex all around, and trying 4 sets of pickups, all that was left to try was swapping necks and bodies) but after a year it was time to give up on that good-looking but tonally dead non-player. Either the body or the neck (or both) were duds, or maybe it was the combination of the two. The satin finish was sticky, the Wolfgang contour was nothing like my Wolfgangs, it was a 2-piece body instead of the 1-piece I ordered, it took 5 months, not 8-10 weeks like they said it would, and while I waited I saw necks and bodies like the ones I ordered start appearing in their "showroom." Their customer service was awful, with 2 of the 3 people I talked to there being nothing less than jerks. You won't know how it's going to sound, feel, play, until you put it together. They give you 10 days to do that and figure out if you want it. Never, ever again. There are other parts companies I'd look into first (USACG etc.). The last Suhr I played was fantastic. To get close to that via Warmoth is tantamount to winning a large lottery. But I will never buy something as personal as a guitar without trying it out first again.
 
Another vote for saving up for a Suhr!

I've got a standard right now and have a Pro Series on order with a different neck and pickup combo. They are expensive, but worth every penny. I sold all my extra gear to get them, but I think these two guitars will last me for a long time. I can also definitely tell you that the "cheaper" pro series play and sound every bit as nice as a custom model.

I'm a big fan of figured tops too, but I've sean solid color used Pro Series S1's and S2's for $1300-1400...I'd go that route first anyday. There's deals out there if you look hard enough!

Jason
 
The real problem with building a guitar is you have no way to tell what it well resonate (sound) like. Every guitar has it's own tone. No matter how nice or how much they look like a other.
 
Yea ive tried many les paul studio's allways wanting to buy another one but never could find one i liked, the one i have is amazing and to me plays better then most customs ive played.
 
Plus one.

A lot of times you just pay for the eye candy not the tone.
 
Very true which is why ive changed my mind on the finish im going for a clear finish with gold hardware :)
 
Stain well let it resonate the most ... A friend of mine re did his bass. I could not believe how much better it sounded.
 
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