Which amp CCV,20th XTC or the Friedaman Marsha

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For you boys who have been around all 3. Which was your favorite and why. I am thinking of getting one or the other. I am looking for the ultimate hotroded marshall tone. I know they are all different. I just moved my wizard mc 100 which i loved for a diezel blue face vh4. So I am going to be back in the market soon. I am thinking friedman.
 
I would love to own any of those but if the Marshall thing is what you're after I would say
Freidman
Cameron CCV
and then the XTC which is kinda it's own beast anyways. All of these are smokin amps. But again if your focus is filling the Marshall void I would go with Dave Friedmans amp. I have not played one but have talked to a few that have, I've had Dave mod a preamp for me and have listened to many clips and vids. The Freidman might just be the ultimate Marshall right now.
 
Amen to this thread.

And don't forget to add the new Suhr PT-100...

I am contemplating those exact amps for my next purchase. I can tell you that the XTC 101B does not nail that tone exactly. Yeah maybe the others are different but who knows. The XTC has its own thing going as others have said and is more low mid voiced. Its not your high cutting mids of your classical Marshall type amp. The 20th might be different but I don't imagine it being THAT much different. Its a cool sound don't get me wrong BUT its not the tone I believe you are seeking (Nor me for that matter)

Hope that helps. Right now I am more inclined with the Friedman soundwise, but I fear its too expensive for what it is. It is only a single channel amp with no loop no midi no nothing starting at 3 grand. Yes I now about the options but that will blow the price off the roof...

The CCV looks like the right alternative but it doesn't seem to be able to cope with low gain as well as the Marsha (Just an opinion)

I am really looking forward to Suhr next amp which will supposedly have fender cleans, voxish and plexi type tones as well as hot rodded marshall sounds, all that with Midi features...
 
Having owned all 3, only the blue channel of the XTC will get you near a Marshall. The CCV sounds nothing like a Marshall. The Marsha will be your only choice here to capture the tone you are after. If I were to get another Marsha, I wouldn't even fool with the HBE either, just get the BE input.

Steve
 
steve_k":345b5ozg said:
If I were to get another Marsha, I wouldn't even fool with the HBE either, just get the BE input.

Steve
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I beg to differ, I use the HBE + Sat!
 
Herein lies the problem with asking for people's opinions...

At the end of the day, you gotsta do your own DD, and do what feels right to you.

Amen,
V. :salute:
 
Can't go wrong with any of them. Personally, I'd choose between the Marsha and the CCV. Both are amazing in their own ways, really couldn't go wrong with either. For what it seems like you're going for, I'd probably choose to go with the Marsha.
 
supersonic":18nfzxsj said:
steve_k":18nfzxsj said:
If I were to get another Marsha, I wouldn't even fool with the HBE either, just get the BE input.

Steve
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I beg to differ, I use the HBE + Sat!
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Not saying they aren't good....just my preference. And, if he is after some Marshall tone, the BE is where it's at. I never had a SAT on mine though. Maybe that tames the beast a bit because a little HBE goes a hell of a long way.

Steve
 
Rezamatix":1dlihc51 said:
Just played a Naked and a Marsha. Not diggin at all. Hopefully the camerons that are coming out soon will be better.
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Curious what you didn't like about the Naked, or what you were after when you played it. I thought it was a sweet amp...all the way up until it went back to California and is now sitting in George Lynch's rack :D

Steve
 
Rezamatix":1cadeq0u said:
Just played a Naked and a Marsha. Not diggin at all.
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Wow, you're the first I've heard say that! Hot rodded Marshall tone is obviously not your thing.
 
Rezamatix":3t789dw7 said:
Just played a Naked and a Marsha. Not diggin at all. Hopefully the camerons that are coming out soon will be better.
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That's kinda strange to me, at least about Marsha! My 73' KS modded Marshall was the best Marshall from Plexi to all the way heavy chugging beast.
 
If it's a hot rodded Marshall tone you say you're after, and out of your three examples you gave, is there even a question? MARSHA. :yes:
 
donbarzini":3am0sahz said:
supersonic":3am0sahz said:
Rezamatix":3am0sahz said:
Just played a Naked and a Marsha. Not diggin at all.
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Wow, you're the first I've heard say that! Hot rodded Marshall tone is obviously not your thing.
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others just keep quiet
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Welcome to the family.
 
Rezamatix":3j27u7ye said:
Just played a Naked and a Marsha. Not diggin at all. Hopefully the camerons that are coming out soon will be better.
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Never played a Naked or Marsha, but as I mentioned after James' amp shootout I hear a little bit of VH4 in the Naked, and I know Dave is a huge fan of that amp...crazy. Maybe in person it's completely different but I thought James' clips were pretty accurate representations of the amps' sounds.
 
Rezamatix":2owvryts said:
I could go into detail about why I wasnt diggin but lets just say I am a Diezel VH4 user and its kinda like the benchmark for me in terms of quietness (when your not playing) , tightness on the low end, gain structure. The naked and the marsha are fine amps but im not really buying into the whole 80's sound thing. Like why would I want to recreate the fuckin 80's?
the amps sounded cool but just werent a VH4. Its hard to come off a fuckin masterpiece and play a marshall clone-ish amp and be impressed. In fact its been awhile since I have been impressed with a marshall style amp. I need the amp to sound TIGHT and have huge mid range punch. Im sure with a different CAB, a les paul, and a NOISE SUPPRESSOR the amps would have been more to my liking.
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Calling a VH4 a masterpiece is kinda stretching it but to each his own.
 
Lp Freak":cdmymbls said:
Rezamatix":cdmymbls said:
I could go into detail about why I wasnt diggin but lets just say I am a Diezel VH4 user and its kinda like the benchmark for me in terms of quietness (when your not playing) , tightness on the low end, gain structure. The naked and the marsha are fine amps but im not really buying into the whole 80's sound thing. Like why would I want to recreate the fuckin 80's?
the amps sounded cool but just werent a VH4. Its hard to come off a fuckin masterpiece and play a marshall clone-ish amp and be impressed. In fact its been awhile since I have been impressed with a marshall style amp. I need the amp to sound TIGHT and have huge mid range punch. Im sure with a different CAB, a les paul, and a NOISE SUPPRESSOR the amps would have been more to my liking.
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Calling a VH4 a masterpiece is kinda stretching it but to each his own.
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:yes: I agree and is where people's tastes just differ... for me all the Diezel stuff I've played was is just way to compressed for me... it sounded like the amp was trying too hard to sound like a recorded tone instead of a raw rocking amp.
 
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