Who has THE vibrato?

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Schon
Yngwie
Dime
Zakk
Jake E.

Those come to mind right off. YJM has great vibrato even though I'm not a huge fan of his style, I can still appreciate it.
 
Jeff Beck
Steve Vai
Joe Bonamassa is getting there
Govan is pretty awesome
Schenker was on it
Zappa had a good spin on it
 
Ok so Vai does have a decent vibrato I suppose, and he knows WAY more about guitar theory than I will ever care to, BUT!!! How in the heck does he think it's physically possible to push on the string on a fretted instrument, and have the note go flat? Unless I wasn't paying attention in physics, I'm pretty sure you can't make a stringed note go lower without relieving some tension on the string in some way. eg. bending the neck, using a tremolo, detuning while playing, etc.
 
Yngwie
Leslie West
George Lynch

I don't try to emulate anyone really but those dudes have it going in the vibrato department.
 
moronmountain":1wnpnxdh said:
Ok so Vai does have a decent vibrato I suppose, and he knows WAY more about guitar theory than I will ever care to, BUT!!! How in the heck does he think it's physically possible to push on the string on a fretted instrument, and have the note go flat? Unless I wasn't paying attention in physics, I'm pretty sure you can't make a stringed note go lower without relieving some tension on the string in some way. eg. bending the neck, using a tremolo, detuning while playing, etc.
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You push the string toward the fret thereby making it go flat...it's somewhat of a finesse technique that takes a little practice to get the hang of (kinda like pinch harmonics in a way...easy once you figure it out but difficult at first).
 
rupe":2xlyp9je said:
moronmountain":2xlyp9je said:
Ok so Vai does have a decent vibrato I suppose, and he knows WAY more about guitar theory than I will ever care to, BUT!!! How in the heck does he think it's physically possible to push on the string on a fretted instrument, and have the note go flat? Unless I wasn't paying attention in physics, I'm pretty sure you can't make a stringed note go lower without relieving some tension on the string in some way. eg. bending the neck, using a tremolo, detuning while playing, etc.
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You push the string toward the fret thereby making it go flat...it's somewhat of a finesse technique that takes a little practice to get the hang of (kinda like pinch harmonics in a way...easy once you figure it out but difficult at first).
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So if you're "pushing" the string towards the bridge end of the guitar, that could lighten the tension. I suppose. I will give it a try. I have strong hands, and a decent normal vibrato. My first thought before trying it though, is that it seems the amount of force needed to actually do this would also bend the string to the fretboard basically cancelling it out. I will try it for myself though. ;)
 
Ok so I suppose it can be done, but OMG the amount of "dip" in the note is friggin MINIMAL, and you have to really force yourself to hear it. Whatever though, both you and Vai are right, and I'm wrong lol! SORRY!!!!!! ;-)

I guess in the end, being a self taught player that never had an interest in learning jazz or classical, I'm not as concerned about SUCH small details. It can get cork sniffy to me pretty quick. I feel like good emotion, feel and basic control overrides minute details in technique. It's cool to learn something new even at my age though. :thumbsup:

Oh and songwriting >>>>>>> ALL
 
moronmountain":2og3pjui said:
Ok so I suppose it can be done, but OMG the amount of "dip" in the note is friggin MINIMAL, and you have to really force yourself to hear it. Whatever though, both you and Vai are right, and I'm wrong lol! SORRY!!!!!! ;-)

I guess in the end, being a self taught player that never had an interest in learning jazz or classical, I'm not as concerned about SUCH small details. It can get cork sniffy to me pretty quick. I feel like good emotion, feel and basic control overrides minute details in technique. It's cool to learn something new even at my age though. :thumbsup:

Oh and songwriting >>>>>>> ALL
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Watch a violin player's vibrato. Doing it that way on the guitar allows the note's pitch to be in the center of the vibrato going up and down in pitch. Normal gtr vibrato only goes up in pitch. It's cool either way.

The man for vibrato is Ace Frehley. Malmsteen is good too.
 
Lynch
Malmsteen
Lukather
Matthias Jabs
Sykes
Frehley
Gary Richrath

Mark
 
electrophonic.tonic":1gwkdwwj said:
Older dudes I'd go Brian May, Hendrix, or Gilmour.
Newer I'd say Lynch or Jake E. Lee.
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Lynch and Jake new? They both pushing 60! :lol: :LOL:
 
Jeff Beck
Uli Roth
Michael Landau
Steve Lukather
Allan Holdsworth
EVH
Dann Huff
Robben Ford
Leslie West
Angus Young
Frank Marino
David Gilmour
BB King
Billy Gibbons
Neal Schon
YJM
Eric Johnson
Eric Clapton
Schenker
Dave Meneketti
Joe Bonamassa
Lynch
Stevie Nixx
Cher LOL
 
I'd have to go with Lynch from a overall 'feel' perspective.


wolf5150":qr6zska3 said:
EVH. Can't believe no one's mentioned him.
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I think people are just afraid to bring up anything Eddie these days as it degenerates into a shitstorm almost every time.



Greazygeo":qr6zska3 said:
Watch a violin player's vibrato. Doing it that way on the guitar allows the note's pitch to be in the center of the vibrato going up and down in pitch. Normal gtr vibrato only goes up in pitch. It's cool either way.
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Wait. Since when is normal guitar vibrato only going up in pitch :confused:
 
Never was into his band or playing much - Jerry Garcia has some of the best control of this technique.
 
311splawndude":ahob6hfw said:
I'd have to go with Lynch from a overall 'feel' perspective.


wolf5150":ahob6hfw said:
EVH. Can't believe no one's mentioned him.
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I think people are just afraid to bring up anything Eddie these days as it degenerates into a shitstorm almost every time.



Greazygeo":ahob6hfw said:
Watch a violin player's vibrato. Doing it that way on the guitar allows the note's pitch to be in the center of the vibrato going up and down in pitch. Normal gtr vibrato only goes up in pitch. It's cool either way.
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Wait. Since when is normal guitar vibrato only going up in pitch :confused:
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True, you can start from a bent note and use vibrato on the way down, and at the resolution of the note, but I think he was referring to the nature that by doing vibrato, you're moving the string typically in an upward direction in pitch, unless you're using a whammy bar to do vibrato, or as I mentioned, starting from a raised (Bent note), and going down in pitch/unbending the note-- while using vibrato, but the vibrato is still increasing in pitch from the reference note.
 
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