Yngwie era Alcatrazz...

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dstroud":1f2kxtjr said:
Chubtone":1f2kxtjr said:
dstroud":1f2kxtjr said:
all this Yngwie talking and listening got me to plop the HS-3's back in my strat and modding my BYOC DOD 250 to make it a little more user friendly into my plexi. I actually think I'm getting the best tone I've ever had lol

Well, that's saying something Darren. I'd love to hear a clip of the HS-3, your 250 clone and your plexi :rock:

Here's a tune I was working on yesterday for a new CD. This is the HS-3 DOD clone and plexi. Still getting the feel under my fingers a bit. I put the solo isolated at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/darren-stroud/hs3dod250

Nice work man! :thumbsup:
 
Badronald":3jw522j0 said:
dstroud":3jw522j0 said:
Chubtone":3jw522j0 said:
dstroud":3jw522j0 said:
all this Yngwie talking and listening got me to plop the HS-3's back in my strat and modding my BYOC DOD 250 to make it a little more user friendly into my plexi. I actually think I'm getting the best tone I've ever had lol

Well, that's saying something Darren. I'd love to hear a clip of the HS-3, your 250 clone and your plexi :rock:

Here's a tune I was working on yesterday for a new CD. This is the HS-3 DOD clone and plexi. Still getting the feel under my fingers a bit. I put the solo isolated at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/darren-stroud/hs3dod250

Nice work man! :thumbsup:

thanks! got a Boss SD-1 sounding pretty good too, but the dod 250 seems to be a little clearer and jump out better.
 
dstroud":21xgevrw said:
Badronald":21xgevrw said:
dstroud":21xgevrw said:
Chubtone":21xgevrw said:
dstroud":21xgevrw said:
all this Yngwie talking and listening got me to plop the HS-3's back in my strat and modding my BYOC DOD 250 to make it a little more user friendly into my plexi. I actually think I'm getting the best tone I've ever had lol

Well, that's saying something Darren. I'd love to hear a clip of the HS-3, your 250 clone and your plexi :rock:

Here's a tune I was working on yesterday for a new CD. This is the HS-3 DOD clone and plexi. Still getting the feel under my fingers a bit. I put the solo isolated at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/darren-stroud/hs3dod250

Nice work man! :thumbsup:

thanks! got a Boss SD-1 sounding pretty good too, but the dod 250 seems to be a little clearer and jump out better.

If I can suggest anything, it would be to crank the DOD clone a bit more, you need a bit more sustain and compression to get those single note runs to pop! Sounds great though.
 
mentoneman":2ytmm30l said:
yngwie and gary moore had some of the fiercest strat-marshall tones on record

everyone talks about yjm's lead tone but the rhythm crunch tone and the soloing on night games on the live sentence album is insane, and for gary most of corridors of power and victims of the future are full throttle rock tones.

i haven't heard the bonus tracks but i did have a demo of his back in the day featuring instrumentals he recorded on a 4 track over a drum machine that was pretty cool. my friend mark (not boals) was briefly slated as yngwie's singer but joe lynn turner ultimately got the gig due to name recognition.
pity because my friend was a way better singer.

Really? Love to hear this guy sing because I gotta say, I thought Turner was fantastic on Odyssey. He kills it and his voice soars perfectly over the more aggressive tunes. I also dug Boals and Sotto though. Yngwie used to know how to pick em.... well errr.... not so much Bonnet but he had his flashes of brilliance with MSG , Alcatrazz, and solo too. He just yelled so damn much!
 
Kapo_Polenton":1eur7dov said:
dstroud":1eur7dov said:
Badronald":1eur7dov said:
dstroud":1eur7dov said:
Chubtone":1eur7dov said:
dstroud":1eur7dov said:
all this Yngwie talking and listening got me to plop the HS-3's back in my strat and modding my BYOC DOD 250 to make it a little more user friendly into my plexi. I actually think I'm getting the best tone I've ever had lol

Well, that's saying something Darren. I'd love to hear a clip of the HS-3, your 250 clone and your plexi :rock:

Here's a tune I was working on yesterday for a new CD. This is the HS-3 DOD clone and plexi. Still getting the feel under my fingers a bit. I put the solo isolated at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/darren-stroud/hs3dod250

Nice work man! :thumbsup:

thanks! got a Boss SD-1 sounding pretty good too, but the dod 250 seems to be a little clearer and jump out better.

If I can suggest anything, it would be to crank the DOD clone a bit more, you need a bit more sustain and compression to get those single note runs to pop! Sounds great though.

thanks man. I was actually tweaking the pedal some more this morning and found a way to squeeze some more gain without changing the frequency response of the sound too much. That's a bit tricky with these pedals.
 
dstroud":wf1zmp92 said:
Kapo_Polenton":wf1zmp92 said:
dstroud":wf1zmp92 said:
Badronald":wf1zmp92 said:
dstroud":wf1zmp92 said:
Chubtone":wf1zmp92 said:
dstroud":wf1zmp92 said:
all this Yngwie talking and listening got me to plop the HS-3's back in my strat and modding my BYOC DOD 250 to make it a little more user friendly into my plexi. I actually think I'm getting the best tone I've ever had lol

Well, that's saying something Darren. I'd love to hear a clip of the HS-3, your 250 clone and your plexi :rock:

Here's a tune I was working on yesterday for a new CD. This is the HS-3 DOD clone and plexi. Still getting the feel under my fingers a bit. I put the solo isolated at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/darren-stroud/hs3dod250

Nice work man! :thumbsup:

thanks! got a Boss SD-1 sounding pretty good too, but the dod 250 seems to be a little clearer and jump out better.

If I can suggest anything, it would be to crank the DOD clone a bit more, you need a bit more sustain and compression to get those single note runs to pop! Sounds great though.

thanks man. I was actually tweaking the pedal some more this morning and found a way to squeeze some more gain without changing the frequency response of the sound too much. That's a bit tricky with these pedals.

I have the reissue "black" version from 2003. What are your settings, as mine goes from clean boost to fuzzy fairly quickly. I typically run it with the gain at 10 and the volume at 2.
 
Kapo_Polenton":bsceytkb said:
mentoneman":bsceytkb said:
yngwie and gary moore had some of the fiercest strat-marshall tones on record

everyone talks about yjm's lead tone but the rhythm crunch tone and the soloing on night games on the live sentence album is insane, and for gary most of corridors of power and victims of the future are full throttle rock tones.

i haven't heard the bonus tracks but i did have a demo of his back in the day featuring instrumentals he recorded on a 4 track over a drum machine that was pretty cool. my friend mark (not boals) was briefly slated as yngwie's singer but joe lynn turner ultimately got the gig due to name recognition.
pity because my friend was a way better singer.

Really? Love to hear this guy sing because I gotta say, I thought Turner was fantastic on Odyssey. He kills it and his voice soars perfectly over the more aggressive tunes. I also dug Boals and Sotto though. Yngwie used to know how to pick em.... well errr.... not so much Bonnet but he had his flashes of brilliance with MSG , Alcatrazz, and solo too. He just yelled so damn much!

I agree, Joe was Yngwie's best singer. The perfect blend for Yngwie's songs, even on LIL, doing Mark's tunes, he sounds great.

Regarding Bonnet, at the time I didn't care for him, but in going back over the years, he's actually grown on me quite a bit. He certainly has quirky lyrics, but his melodies are uniquely his. And like Dio (though not as good) has the soul singer background of adding vocal fry or taking it away as needed. In addition, because of Graham's popularity with Rainbow and MSG, it catapulted Yngwie in Japan to God the moment he stepped off the plane.
 
i will never ever understand graham bonnett's thing

james dean meets miami vice appearance and edith bunker meets ethel mermon vocal style. what a strange world we live in

joe turner was pretty good but not better than mark boals imo
my friend mark had a harnell/tnt range meets ray gillan/coverdale/dio huskier thing--plus he spoke swedish and was a perfect fit for yngwie, minus the star power
 
mentoneman":juw16spt said:
i will never ever understand graham bonnett's thing

james dean meets miami vice appearance and edith bunker meets ethel mermon vocal style. what a strange world we live in

joe turner was pretty good but not better than mark boals imo
my friend mark had a harnell/tnt range meets ray gillan/coverdale/dio huskier thing--plus he spoke swedish and was a perfect fit for yngwie, minus the star power

I liked Bonnett, but live he had trouble at times trying to sing such high, over the top shit. Loved the album he did w/ Michael Schenker.
Whenever I think of Bonnett, I remember the 1979 afternoon in-store appearence he did w/ Roger Glover, before the evening's Rainbow show. He was pasty-white. I guess he wore makeup. looked like a corpse at a wake. He was strange to look at but I dug him w/ Rainbow and Alcatrazz.
 
mrcak":30qkukaq said:
mentoneman":30qkukaq said:
i will never ever understand graham bonnett's thing

james dean meets miami vice appearance and edith bunker meets ethel mermon vocal style. what a strange world we live in

joe turner was pretty good but not better than mark boals imo
my friend mark had a harnell/tnt range meets ray gillan/coverdale/dio huskier thing--plus he spoke swedish and was a perfect fit for yngwie, minus the star power

I liked Bonnett, but live he had trouble at times trying to sing such high, over the top shit. Loved the album he did w/ Michael Schenker.
Whenever I think of Bonnett, I remember the 1979 afternoon in-store appearence he did w/ Roger Glover, before the evening's Rainbow show. He was pasty-white. I guess he wore makeup. looked like a corpse at a wake. He was strange to look at but I dug him w/ Rainbow and Alcatrazz.

pasty white was likely also due to heavy cocaine consumption and only coming out at night like a vampire after he had slept off wicked hangovers. I guess his voice was pretty crazy range wise when he was younger as I have heard some clips on youtube that sound almost nothing like him. However, that style of power singing can't stay with you forever. He does get props for dressing miami vice while playing in rock bands though!
 
I actually didn't care for Bonnet's voice in Rainbow all that much but they had some good tracks but he wouldn't even come to mind in my top vocalists. After getting the Live No Parole for rock & roll album just because of Yngwie the more I listened to it the more I actually started to appreciate him...he has some power and range
 
Shawn Lutz":1hpbevh0 said:
I actually didn't care for Bonnet's voice in Rainbow all that much but they had some good tracks but he wouldn't even come to mind in my top vocalists. After getting the Live No Parole for rock & roll album just because of Yngwie the more I listened to it the more I actually started to appreciate him...he has some power and range

i appreciated the moments he took a breath between yodelling like a boston carpenter who just smashed his thumb with a hammer

i'm still traumatized from having to listen to that nincompoop reinacting a prison rape on every song he butchered, over and over again while trying to learn yngwie's guitar solos. hiroshima mon amour has to be one of the most ridiculously bad vocal moments in rock history

the band should have been called yngwie and the morons

here are some earlier bands the other members of alcatrazz were in prior to yngwie's arrival

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and graham bonnett is his stage name. his real name is gary. who could forget his groundbreaking debut:

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Bonnet was great on the first Impellitteri album, I saw him live recently, could hear his voice even over the mic at times, had a his hot wife on bass. But he couldn't nail the notes.

Yngwie's Alchemy is a hidden gem amongst the post Fire and Ice garbage, blue is a killer song and the vocals are insane, some stupid high notes!
 
i think the drummer in backsplash should have joined forces with the two frontmen in vulva denied and gary. now that would have rocked. :rawk:
 
Kapo_Polenton":3t7glhb3 said:
I just have never recovered from War to end all Wars

I remember reading a couple of years ago that his main addiction on that album was world of warcraft. He spent all his time in the studio playing that instead of focusing on recording the album
 
dstroud":2k2jffvh said:
this might be common knowledge but it was news to me. I just downloaded No Parole from Rock and Roll from iTunes and it came with a bunch of bonus tracks. the bonus tracks were the tunes in demo form without vocals. very fun to listen to and so cool to hear Yngwie just kinda cut loose running through those tunes!

Thanks for the hint. I missed that release and it is totally amazing. So cool to hear all the details of his playing. Man I miss him doing cool records. I hope so much he will someday focus on songs again and not try to get as many notes in as possible.
 
I was just watching the Alcatrazz Live in Japan DVD. Amazing. Some of Yngwie's best playing!!

 
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