cujo
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Guys relax I was just venting a lil cuz of a conversation about trashing the evh amps. Sorry for pissing you guys off I'm really not a dick. I support good amps is all. Apologies to those I ticked off.
ConcreteVampire
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cujo":1usvgdiu said:
WELL!!!
lol, all good Bro.
Go out this weekend take a load off... 
cujo
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Actually tension has been building out of work. Domestic relations crawling up my ass x wife is fkn possessed !!!! My wife's sis just got diagnosed w lymphoma cancer ,,,, what next ?
jerrydyer
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bummer.
ill be looking for work march 1 ,,boss is retiring
ill be looking for work march 1 ,,boss is retiring
ConcreteVampire
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cujo":1dze4e4y said:
Yikes! Sorry mang... hope the year pans out better...
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Mr. Willy
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cujo":3caqcav4 said:
A great way to get people to see your point of view is to insult them and call them names. You're like a child.
cujo
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And your perfect now tgat we have that covered.we can Move on
Mr. Willy
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cujo":1ytfvhrr said:
You're.
You started the thread.
cujo
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I did but it was valid just cuz stuff is made in china or wherever doesn't mean it's less than n just cuz something is made in America doesn't mean it's great.
I did apologize for harshness I can admit when I am wrong. But I stand by the initial thread. I've heard of guys on trips to some of these foreign shops n they say quality control is excellent.
Again sorry for lashing out but some comments are not justified by others either.
Cheers !
I did apologize for harshness I can admit when I am wrong. But I stand by the initial thread. I've heard of guys on trips to some of these foreign shops n they say quality control is excellent.
Again sorry for lashing out but some comments are not justified by others either.
Cheers !
Mr. Willy
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Grown up move. Good for you!
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Shiny_Surface
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cujo":3gkgd0hb said:
I think it's entirely possible to have a boutique level build quality product made in China, you just have to look at the reality of the situation.
Most guitar/amp/whatever companies who make the decision to outsource to China aren't based on the premise of producing a better quality product than can be made elsewhere. They are making the decision to save money, and that is why there is a stigma and reaction from some people.
As someone said in a previous post in the thread, it all starts with who is making the decision to have something made there and what is their motivation for doing so.
It's likely not so you can have better quality transformers in your tube amp. j/k
steve_k
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I think we had some of this discussion before. But, what I don't get is how the math works out to take US (or UK) parts/components or wood, ship them to China, build an amp or assemble a guitar, ship the completed item back to the US (or UK), pass it from distributor to retailer and sell it at a profit on the internet to the consumer - and in a timely manner. Of course, volume has some impact, but still.....seems like all the profit margin is eat up in shipping, administration, duties, etc. Maybe the Chinese aren't exactly working on profit right now, but investing in the future control, imbalance and domination of global trade.
If a retailer is working on a 25% profit margin and the manufacturer is doing the same on an amp that sells for $1500. That puts the cost of manufacturing, shipping, duties, etc. less than $1000. Lets put the cheapest tubes in a 100 watt amp. There's $100. A cheap set of transformers lets say $200. A headshell for say $100 and the same for a chassis and plates. There's $500 and boards, electronic components, pots, knobs, jacks, etc. aren't priced in yet, let alone the cost of assembly.
If a retailer is working on a 25% profit margin and the manufacturer is doing the same on an amp that sells for $1500. That puts the cost of manufacturing, shipping, duties, etc. less than $1000. Lets put the cheapest tubes in a 100 watt amp. There's $100. A cheap set of transformers lets say $200. A headshell for say $100 and the same for a chassis and plates. There's $500 and boards, electronic components, pots, knobs, jacks, etc. aren't priced in yet, let alone the cost of assembly.
MississippiMetal
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Heritage Softail":3jhohg9f said:
Oh yeah? Then why does that chick in your avatar have the Canadian flag on her bikini bottom? hmm? Answer that, captain smartypants.
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joolzriff
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just by what i like and always liked i have always bought either British or American or Canadian guitar amps & hifi gear.... American British or Japanese guitars & FX pedals & German cars...... so far all this shit i have has been super reliable & i'll continue buying this way....... another thing with buying American products is the after Sales...it isnt a pain in the ass to get repaired or replaced & holds a good used value......in my experience