Your favorite shredder?

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I hate shredding :( IMO It's not musical nor pleasing to listen to, and I usually quickly skip to the next song / Youtube video whenever anyone starts shredding.

The only shredder (I've heard so far) that ever actually sounded anywhere near musical in some way is Yngwie Malmsteen. I've only heard him shredding once or twice (as I'm not keen to listening to 80s heavy metal), but he seemed to have an actual musical goal in mind with his shreadding, kind of like arpeggios played by Johan Sebastian Bach back in the day. In that regard almost every single "shredder god" known to mankind seems to be missing the whole point of making actual good music with shredding, instead of trying to appeal to the tiny guitar technique wanking community.

That being said, in my not-so-humble opinion: shredders are not musicians. They don't understand what makes music good. They've deluded themselves with the idea that "superior technique makes superior music, which makes me superior in everyones eyes, hence everyone worships me and wants to come to my gigs". When it's the exact opposite. Those guitarists try to appeal to the guitarist audience, instead of doing the right thing and writing actual good music for the actual regular people who should be the real consumers of the music.

The world needs more Jimi Hendrix and less Tim Henson.
 
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Kraku said:
I hate shredding :( IMO It's not musical nor pleasing to listen to, and I usually quickly skip to the next song / Youtube video whenever anyone starts shredding.

The only shredder (I've heard so far) that ever actually sounded anywhere near musical in some way is Yngwie Malmsteen. I've only heard him shredding once or twice (as I'm not keen to listening to 80s heavy metal), but he seemed to have an actual musical goal in mind with his shreadding, kind of like arpeggios played by Johan Sebastian Bach back in the day. In that regard almost every single "shredder god" known to mankind seems to be missing the whole point of making actual good music with shredding, instead of trying to appeal to the tiny guitar technique wanking community.

That being said, in my not-so-humble opinion: shredders are not musicians. They don't understand what makes music good. They've deluded themselves with the idea that "superior technique makes superior music, which makes me superior in everyones eyes, hence everyone worships me and wants to come to my gigs". When it's the exact opposite. Those guitarists try to appeal to the guitarist audience, instead of doing the right thing and writing actual good music for the actual regular people who should be the real consumers of the music.
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I for one find it fascinating because I never learned to shred 🙂🤣 Those guys have put the work in to learn the fretboard in & out.. It takes mad practice & dedication which in itself commands respect. I think it can get musical in the right context.. sprinkled in bits I love it.. Growing up Mark Rizzo from Ill Niño was one of my favorites after I saw him live at ozzfest. Might not be your style but I think it can get very musical:

 
Kraku said:
I hate shredding :( IMO It's not musical nor pleasing to listen to, and I usually quickly skip to the next song / Youtube video whenever anyone starts shredding.

The only shredder (I've heard so far) that ever actually sounded anywhere near musical in some way is Yngwie Malmsteen. I've only heard him shredding once or twice (as I'm not keen to listening to 80s heavy metal), but he seemed to have an actual musical goal in mind with his shreadding, kind of like arpeggios played by Johan Sebastian Bach back in the day. In that regard almost every single "shredder god" known to mankind seems to be missing the whole point of making actual good music with shredding, instead of trying to appeal to the tiny guitar technique wanking community.

That being said, in my not-so-humble opinion: shredders are not musicians. They don't understand what makes music good. They've deluded themselves with the idea that "superior technique makes superior music, which makes me superior in everyones eyes, hence everyone worships me and wants to come to my gigs". When it's the exact opposite. Those guitarists try to appeal to the guitarist audience, instead of doing the right thing and writing actual good music for the actual regular people who should be the real consumers of the music.

The world needs more Jimi Hendrix and less Tim Henson.
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I am sorry your not feeling well, have you had your testosterone levels checked?
 
Kraku said:
I hate shredding :( IMO It's not musical nor pleasing to listen to, and I usually quickly skip to the next song / Youtube video whenever anyone starts shredding.

The only shredder (I've heard so far) that ever actually sounded anywhere near musical in some way is Yngwie Malmsteen. I've only heard him shredding once or twice (as I'm not keen to listening to 80s heavy metal), but he seemed to have an actual musical goal in mind with his shreadding, kind of like arpeggios played by Johan Sebastian Bach back in the day. In that regard almost every single "shredder god" known to mankind seems to be missing the whole point of making actual good music with shredding, instead of trying to appeal to the tiny guitar technique wanking community.

That being said, in my not-so-humble opinion: shredders are not musicians. They don't understand what makes music good. They've deluded themselves with the idea that "superior technique makes superior music, which makes me superior in everyones eyes, hence everyone worships me and wants to come to my gigs". When it's the exact opposite. Those guitarists try to appeal to the guitarist audience, instead of doing the right thing and writing actual good music for the actual regular people who should be the real consumers of the music.

The world needs more Jimi Hendrix and less Tim Henson.
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People write/play what they are inspired to write/play. 'Doing the right thing...' wtf does that even mean? Paganini gonna Paganini, just the way it is.
 
RaceU4her said:
he played guitar and was writing the Poppy stuff for a while, which is where i learned of him, then i searched him on youtube and seen that shit lol :dunno: :ROFLMAO:



i think this is him in the mask??

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I was teaching guitar to this 16 year old girl and she had me teach her some Poppy tunes. I had never heard of her so I was surprised, the guitar playing was really really good!
 
Guthrie govan

AND i revisited Blues Saraceno recently and i was shocked that the albums that i owned he was still a teenager when released

seriously whisky tango foxtrot for the Saraceno

plenty of others but the above are murder compared to most
 
SpiderWars said:
People write/play what they are inspired to write/play. 'Doing the right thing...' wtf does that even mean? Paganini gonna Paganini, just the way it is.
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Except comparing Rock guys to Paganini is somewhat off.
I mean the shred thing was Rock guys finally catching up with guys in other genres except the ideas where mostly scale sequences and arpeggios instead of lines.
 
Guthrie
Gilbert
Petrucci
YJM
Steve Vai
Rob Marcello
Andy Timmons
Nuno
Skolnick
 
My favorite shredder is probably something fresher to my ear. It was EVH, then Randy, then Yngwie, then Vinnie, then EJ etc up to Guthrie. Then Joscho was my gateway into Gypsy jazz and that's just one other shredder rabbit hole of many.
 
Not a big fan of listening to shredders. I gravitate towards more "musical" guys like Andy Timmons and Nick Johnston for guitar instrumental. In the context of a "regular" band with vocals it would be Petrucci.
 
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