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What can be changed in the circuits and components to make them exactly to spec of the original amps (assuming that there are some differences. Also obviously skipping the hand wiring)?
Mostly transformers you cant get anymore. Thats why they get higher prices.cr7r9":3oo4nnsy said:What can be changed in the circuits and components to make them exactly to spec of the original amps (assuming that there are some differences. Also obviously skipping the hand wiring)?
glpg80":2c5j1xvw said:Who does the original marshall transformers better? metro/heyboer or merren?
CrazyNutz":bz8haj0p said:Here's the thing, If you take the time to do the research you can build a damn close replica for $1500 or less, and learn something along the way.
Another thing, amps need time to break-in. I've build several 1968 SLP replicas that sounded a little underwhelming until a years worth of hard gigging.
After breaking-in they sound amazing.
All this stuff is like a well worn pair of bluejeans, vs a new pair of bluejeans.
If we are talking strictly about component "specs", the biggest difference between the original 1959, 1987 and JTM45's and the re-issues is that the power supply filtering is wrong on the re-issues. Marshall just slammed in 50uf x 50uf cans everywhere.cr7r9":9vejn1eq said:What can be changed in the circuits and components to make them exactly to spec of the original amps (assuming that there are some differences. Also obviously skipping the hand wiring)?
Scumback Speakers":3a6a1dh9 said:No, you wouldn't Dave, and neither would I. That's why I still have five original Marshall heads out in the shop.
Yes, a clone with ridiculous attention to detail, parts, transformers and tubes can sound really damn close to an old Marshall. I know, I've done it.
But when you find out getting all those unobtanium parts cost around $3300, then plus the labor to put it together, you figure out a real Marshall is about $500 more. I did this with Greg Germino in 2011 on a custom build, and that's what it cost me, about $3800 for a 100w 68 Plexi spec build with NOS Mustards (68 date codes), Merren trannies, NOS glass, black Marshall levant on the head cab, etc. etc.
It just comes down to finding an old Marshall someone will let go of for a price you can live with.
CrazyNutz":1s4yjiex said:True custom/clones don't hold the value of a real Marshall, so one has to take that into consideration.
I've played several vintage originals, some have the mojo, some not so much.
Hell some people don't wan't a clone simply because it doesn't say Marshall on it We'll the fix for that is just buy the logo and slap it on Instant mojo increase Haha, just don't be an asshole and try to sell it as a authentic Marshall.
psychodave":114ucbiv said:I had a 74 SL that I got from the original owner. Still had the GE 6550’s in it. The amp was crazy loud. The original owner didn’t play it much. I think the mojo it had was due to not being used much and it still sounded fresh...the output transformer was solid. I ended up selling the amp to someone who had it modded. Then sold it to someone else. I was saddened to see a mint amp get modded, it that’s life.
psychodave":2o9vamk9 said:CrazyNutz":2o9vamk9 said:I still remember the day I heard my 71SL for the first time. It was LedZeppelins “heart breaker” tone. Just a flat out monster. My 67 plexi is godly for single coil stuff. Has that Hendrix bigness to it. With humbuckers and a pedal out front, it is pounding. I’ve blown 30 watt speakers while using it with TWO 4x12’s. That amp is responsible for my hearing loss and tinnitus.
CrazyNutz":cz2i1yxx said:psychodave":cz2i1yxx said:I had a 74 SL that I got from the original owner. Still had the GE 6550’s in it. The amp was crazy loud. The original owner didn’t play it much. I think the mojo it had was due to not being used much and it still sounded fresh...the output transformer was solid. I ended up selling the amp to someone who had it modded. Then sold it to someone else. I was saddened to see a mint amp get modded, it that’s life.
Man, kills me inside when people do that that. Why not just get a clone, or a re-issue if they're going to mod it.